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growingdigital




msg:704812
 3:59 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

It looks like Google wasted no time integrating Urchin into their product lineup:

[google.com...]

If you pay $200/mo for Urchin now, you may want to reconsider.

[edited by: vitaplease at 8:02 am (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
[edit reason] link to source itself [/edit]

 

Netizen




msg:704992
 10:09 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

So am I the only one who is seeing a javascript error from [google-analytics.com...]

Netizen




msg:704993
 10:40 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, seems fixed now but it was like it for at least 5 hours and probably longer given the way the stats dropped off over the last couple of days...

eljuan




msg:704994
 10:58 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

well thank God for that - I thought I was having "HTML 101" nightmares.

almost 3pm PST and Google cannot detect my code on my homepage.

SFReader




msg:704995
 11:50 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nancy99,

I didn't see anyone answer your question (though I might missed the reply in so many). There is no mechanism to turn off email notification once you turn it on.

If you contact the moderators, they may do it manually, but by the time they get back from PubCon, this thread may have died out.

docrahul




msg:704996
 3:37 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

There actually seems to be a way to turn it off - [webmasterworld.com...]

Unfortunately I don't see an edit message link in my posts. :(

sparticus




msg:704997
 5:26 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Signed up three days ago, put the code into a few sites and am still waiting for the data to come through.. Tech support assures me it will be within the next 12 hours, but I'm not coming in to work on the weekend to check, nor am I holdign my breath.. I am looking forward to this though - at first glance the features look excellent.

MarkHutch




msg:704998
 5:30 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm still waiting, too. I've had the successful install message for about 24 hours saying that stats will start updating in 12 hours. There must have been much more interest in this introduction than they expected. Google has huge resources, so this problem should be worked out soon. (fingers crossed)

podman




msg:704999
 5:38 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

The first two sites I entered took over 12 hours to validate, the next two were under two hours, now I'm back to over 14 hours from the ones I added today.

And it's been well over two days since I put my first site in, and still no statistics on any of them.

digitalspyders




msg:705000
 7:29 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can you buy a server license still? Does anyone have any links for this?

I rather have this on our server installed. I'd pay for peace of mind.

incrediBILL




msg:705001
 8:28 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK, now I'm not one to start or subscribe to conspiracy theories, but I think the members that have tinfoil hats <you know who you are> will appreciate this thought.

Maybe it's not YOUR data Google is interested in seeing, perhaps they're more interested in seeing overall how much PPC action is going to other PPC programs like Yahoo, MSN, etc.

Just a thought.

digitalspyders




msg:705002
 8:53 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I really believe after sitting through a Urchin 6 webinar that the main secret purpose of offering Urchin for free would be to increase Ad Word revenue and increase the relevancy of search results and targeted ads.

A lot of web site owners don't buy Ad words cause sometimes they are a bit expensive and if you don't know what they are doing for you then you discontinue using them once you blow a bit of money with no measurable results. With Urchin 6 you can see what words make you money an which ones are costing you. Now you will feel confident in using Ad words thus more revenue to Google. Brilliant

knighty




msg:705003
 1:00 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seems to be a lot of negativity over an awesome FREE product!

Yes, its frustrating to wait to see data but they only just launched the thing, its free, its been swamped by sweaty grubby hands who want their data NOW!

I've even seen people posting non-existant for claims, for example, there is a complaint about not seeing hits by country! Are they kidding you not only see each country but each state!

Dont even want to get started on the conspiracy theories! Anyone ever thought that this is actually a good thing? That maybe Google are not trying to monpolise but help? What happened to optimism? Oh no Google have relesed a fantastic bit of kit for free! Booo! Hisss!

littleprince




msg:705004
 1:21 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Free it might be. Awesome it is not.
If Microsoft launched as it is the entire internet would be slamming it. It'd be front page news. The fact that Google releases it in this state does not make them forgiven.

I just wanted to test it out. I think it's got great potential. But I don't think it offers much more than the Log analyzer I have now. The biggest thing for me would be to check stats while on the road away from my laptop.

grantmoney




msg:705005
 1:23 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

My few sites have updated to include wed and thursday data, but it seems a big chunk is missing! looks like a 24 period from the middle of wed to the middle of thur didn't get tracked (or at least didn't get included in the stats).

i'll keep trying it to see how it all goes, but at the moment i'm swaying towards removing it from my sites. it all seems geared towards marketing people who don't know anything about computers :(

eamiller




msg:705006
 2:26 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is a gap in my data also -- 8 am Wednesday to about 2 am Thursday -- then Thurs. from 11 pm until now is missing. Otherwise I think this is going to be great!

coho75




msg:705007
 2:41 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am also seeing the gap in data. I've also added the tracking code to a second site and Google is telling me that they don't see it. The code has been on the site for about 36 hours. Has anybody else had this problem?

cartone




msg:705008
 3:30 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

knighty,

I agree with you.
It's for free, so give it some time.

I don't know to much packages that worked from day 1 for 100%.

StreetSurfer




msg:705009
 3:46 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

yes - about 50% data loss on wednesday here to... there's bound to be a few problems with anything of this scale.

Once the systems are tuned up and the bugs worked out (and they are getting fixed quickly from what i've seen) it'll get even better i'm sure.

seems geared towards marketing people

It is supposed to be for marketing people / executive / and webmasters (as per the report categories)

Old skool marketers that don't know about computers will be getting statistics they need to improve and understand online marketing better...

Giving such a valuable tool free to AdWords clients is definitely a reason to join AdWords - and for publishers that is also a good thing.

don't know anything about computers

that would be the executive reports... LoL

what I think is great is that even the execs will be able to make better decisions regarding their websites - given the clear explanations of each report.

and the webmasters and marketers can get what they want / need out of the suits to make the site / sytems / marketing perform better....

netmeg




msg:705010
 4:58 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

We've put it into three sites - so far, on one site, the stats seem pretty accurate, one is not accurate but not too badly off, and one is WAY off the mark.

There are also issues with the way it sorts the sites, and associates the accounts, but we haven't worked all that out yet, so it might be operator error.

The admin has told me all along that it was still gathering data, even after it actually was. I think that message is stuck to 'on'.

StreetSurfer




msg:705011
 5:00 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

they only drawback for the "average business owner" is that it may be overwhealming with the sheer number of report option...

a simplified navigation to reaching the required common stats would help... too many report options and the layperson won't know where to look...

common clicks:
Where is my traffic coming from? > link to full report
What traffic is producing sales? > link to full report
What are our most popular pages? > link to full report

Block19Row13




msg:705012
 5:10 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

added the code, but google keeps saying it cant detect it.

nice one!

incrediBILL




msg:705013
 5:39 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seems to be a lot of negativity over an awesome FREE product!

I would say this is the first monopolistic move they've made that doesn't pass the sniff test even with all the altruisitic double speak they served up @ PubCon. It ranks right up there with Microsoft giving away browsers and email to decimate competitors back in the 90s, it smells.

Considering Google probably just tanked the business of a bunch of analytics companies, probably putting a lot of people out of work, and cost a bunch of stockholders in those companies many millions of dollars, I can't say I'm thrilled with this development and they can never use that mantra "Do No Evil" ever again with a straight face.

Doesn't mean I won't use it, but I don't have to like how they went about it.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 5:41 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

MarkHutch




msg:705014
 5:41 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

After waiting three days for stats with nothing, I just removed their code, for now. I'll wait a few weeks and try again when they have devoted more resources to this project.

roxah




msg:705015
 6:06 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Do No Evil" , ahaha google is definetly turning into ms now...... I hope google rethinks their strategies.

charlier




msg:705016
 6:08 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

On the other hand they probably created thousands of jobs for web analytics support people.

adamxcl




msg:705017
 6:18 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I went ahead and got pulled in at Pubcon....no stats yet so I'm thinking about pulling the code until I hear better word. Who knows what they are doing with it right now and when it will really work.....why do they Beta just about everything else and open this up pretty wide on day one? Maybe they should have checked this service with 50 sites, 500 sites, 1000 sites, 5000 site, etc to see what happened first.

Nik_in_CA




msg:705018
 8:41 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

My data was reporting just fine, showing stats from Monday to Wednesday. I'm flat-lined on 10 sites from Wed to Friday. Are they backed up again?

eljuan




msg:705019
 11:07 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

2 days and still can't detect their own script. But knowing how hard their engineers work, I'm sure it will be up and running in the near future.

I feel sorry for Clicktracks and the other good analytics companies...I'm sure they will innovate further, but I wonder if they kind of foresaw this when GOOG bought Urchin.

digitalspyders




msg:705020
 11:15 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Rather pay for something that works then use something that is free and broken.

sandyeggo




msg:705021
 12:08 am on Nov 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

i didnt have urchin a week ago
i do have some of it this week
i didnt pay for it either week
nothing lost as far as i can tell

Marc_P




msg:705022
 12:34 am on Nov 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have noticed very significant improvements in performance over the past 15-20 minutes.

I also noticed that some of the more innovative features such as site overlay and the graphical representations of the goal funnels have now completely disappeared from the available reports.

Could it be that these reports were creating performance issues?

note: I was an Urchin On Demand subscriber so it is possible that these features were never part of Google Analytics.

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