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Dropped today
All my competitive terms gone
Deester




msg:716452
 11:35 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm sure there will be loads of threads like this but I thought I'd post this anyway to see if anyone can help.

My site has been listed in google for 4 years. My site runs 2 topics, 2 very different topics. Its not a scraper site, its all original content and I've never entered into reciprocal link exchanges.

As of today Google has removed all the pages from where I actually make any money, every single one of them. All have a PR of 0.

Just when I thought I was safe i've been deleted. My income is now 0. Traffic is almost all gone.

Original content / no bad links / been listed for years. I give up.

I'm guessing the two very different topics is what has killed my site.

Deester

 

miedmark




msg:716453
 1:42 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I feel your pain. I got dropped at the end of october - slowly coming back now. I tried a lot of things to clean up the site with outgoing links etc.
I even emailed google, got standard reply, basically saying everyone deserves a chance to be at the top. I kind of understand their thinking - imagine if your site was number 1 forever - that would be kind of boring.

Anyway, bottom line is you shouldn't rely on one source of incoming traffic (Google in this case). Put more time in getting traffic from other sources. Both you and I learned this the hard way, in my case I lost 50% of income for entire month, I'm back at 75% earnings and slowly climbing.

theBear




msg:716454
 2:23 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't think that two different topics would in and of it self kill a site.

If I do a site on model railroading and also talk about logging or mining or boilers or a ton of other things that the site would be nailed by Google.

Google might be a bit confused because it has the mental age of a 2 year old but it wouldn't nail a site just for that.

miedmark




msg:716455
 3:16 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think I'm done thinking and trying to figure out what and why and how's about Google. There are literally millions of pages to read about jagger, bourbon, pr, links,etc.etc.

Bottom line is, nobody understands Google. Nobody knows what stunt next they'll pull. One day you're on top, next day you're being punished. A lot of people have and understanding of what's going on, yet no one can predict future.

Stick to building great sites with usefull and unique content, don't rely on one search engine as your only source of visitors and you'll do just fine.

sonny




msg:716456
 3:40 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

please tell us your site. We can probably help!

Ouroboros




msg:716457
 5:07 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm starting to think that their intention is to eliminate any page that makes money through affiliate advertising, regardless of what else is available on the site.

Deester




msg:716458
 11:21 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Anyway, bottom line is you shouldn't rely on one source of incoming traffic (Google in this case). Put more time in getting traffic from other sources. Both you and I learned this the hard way, in my case I lost 50% of income for entire month, I'm back at 75% earnings and slowly climbing.

Yep, I can't agree more. We had a very good thing going and I was silly not to pursue other traffic apart form the mighty G.

Thankfully, I have a few SEO clients who should keep me going, at least I won't starve just yet!

Deester




msg:716459
 11:24 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)


I'm starting to think that their intention is to eliminate any page that makes money through affiliate advertising, regardless of what else is available on the site.

Thats exactly it. Google removed all the pages which were associated with affiliate programmes. It wasn't a gradual thing either, i couldnt believe it as I looked at the SERP's yesterday.

No wonder we have so many spammers and people on the dark side, it seems easier than trying to run a legitimite original content site.

bekyed




msg:716460
 11:43 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nope,

All my competitors with the top affiliate programs are still ranking high.

Bek.

Deester




msg:716461
 11:58 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nope,

All my competitors with the top affiliate programs are still ranking high.

Bek.

It's only a matter of time!

ThomasB




msg:716462
 2:33 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

> It's only a matter of time!

That's what G would love to see. But to be honest I don't see (spammy) aff-sites will be gone any time soon. There has always been SPAM and it won't be gone in the near future unless all Spammers retire, which is very unlikely. ;)

financialhost




msg:716463
 2:47 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sticky me the URL and if i get the time over the weekend i will let you know what is causing this

idolw1




msg:716464
 6:41 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

i do not think affiliate sites are to be dropped. many of them provide added value and make the web better. for example price-comprison engines - they are simple affiliates but provide added value to the user. why should they get penalized?
what about info sites, that have simple affiliate links on them? they may be treated as affiliate sites too, but there is no sense to kill them.
SERPs shall be comprehensive, so shall contain listings of product/services providers, affiliates, review sites...
if the SERPs lack such results, they will not be good.

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