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Update Saga. Part 5
Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

 

Ankhenaton



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 5:14 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

216.239.51.104

definitively better but site:example.com looks like an old result. :\

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 31943 posted 6:21 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

joeduck

Not really seen that much improvements (if there are any they are very small at the moment)

I am confident it is a problem with the homepage that then filters down to effect the rest of the site in my case.

I had a problem with non-www homepage being indexed - ever since my homepage has not ranked even on the most obscure searches.

Atomic

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Msg#: 31943 posted 6:37 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

216.239.51.104 looks old to me, too. Might be better or worse for some but my money is on those results going bye bye.

burcot

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:06 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

66.102.9.99 has suddenly changed back to mirror all the other dcs for my search terms.

lee_sufc

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:06 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am noticing an improvement now on [66.102.9.104...] - a lot better for me than it was looking a few hours ago - is anyone else noticing a difference?

lee_sufc

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:07 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

burcot - SNAP! lol

brnwatson

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:08 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is it just me, or is the jagger3 DC's back to the old data?

I notice poor SERPS again on these 2 DC's, and the site: command shows the old unorganised results..

The 2 jagger3 DC's were showing a much more organised site: command layout..

Is anyone else seeing that jagger3 DC's have reverted?

Kangol

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:17 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

lee_sufc yes indeed,
I do not know if 66.102.9.104 inverted or improoved. For my term I rank better.

DumpedbyG

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:17 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

brnwatson,

You are correct, J3 is gone.

But this is not the first time, and it always came back

Abigail

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:19 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

went to bed last night feeling a little more optomistic - so #25 isn't as good as #5 but hey I am still hanging in there. but 'WACK' today 99% of my pages have been stripped of everything but their little ol' url's hanging out and the tiny bit of traffic I had kept is now in never, never land.......I feel like I am sinking into quick sand. my site is almost 7 years old, not by any means a new puppy on the block, and no am not a spammer.

claimsweb

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:22 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Definitely a change on DC 9

This has got to be a rewind - the serps on 9 now resemble 7 from earlier in the week.

Given that GG / MC both flagged up that the 9 we have been seeing for 7 days was going to be the final result and would spread - what the hell is going on now.

Not happy - the J3 9 was sweet

brnwatson

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:22 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

wow.. what a rollercoaster :D Almost (but not quite) funny..

I hope its temporary, because these results look very much like the distaster that was jagger2.

Bring back Jagger3!

Ankhenaton



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:26 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Jagger 4 the insult continues ..

heisje

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 8:28 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

.

irrelevant results, by google, over and over and again.

reminds me so much of the "spam crusades" of
- infoseek
- altavista
- excite

where are they all now?
gone, long ago . . .

google is killing itself, blinded by arrogance.
have seen this play before - deja vu . . .
it is a play with no happy ending.
it is only a matter of time.
(estimate: 3-4 years)

hard to believe?
well, it was also hard to believe at the time for the aforementioned, but proved true.
why? their search results really stank,
the "emperors" were really naked,
but, at the time, they still were worth billions . . .
internet bull, really . . .

heisje

.

[edited by: heisje at 8:38 pm (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]

Atomic

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:35 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

The one thing I see at 66.102.9.104 besides older SERPs is a blue sponsored links bar at the bottom of the page a la Yahoo or MSN. I never saw that before! Hmmm, I saw it once but it hasn't been repeated. Weird.

reseller

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:37 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good evening Folks

I see that you are "enjoying" the FLUX :-)

Nick0r

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:37 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yea, it seems .9 reverted to the old .7... that's a major backwards move from Google as the new .9 results were a lot nicer..

Kangol

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:41 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is this a FLUX or a revert?

WW_Watcher

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:42 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reseller, in your ultimate wisdom

This is not your flux you are looking for, it is jagger 2, G has removed from the load balanced pool on "9" the servers serving up the J3 results, they did this the other night before rolling out J3 to more datacenters, and IMHO this is what is happening now. I would not consider this your Flux.

Back to watching (webmasterworld)
WW_Watcher

reseller

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:44 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Kangol

>>Is this a FLUX or a revert? <<

I guess its a FLUX, during which the serps might look as anything you know and you don't know :-)

Give it 1-2 weeks or so and it will be more stable.

selomelo

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:44 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Right now, not only .9, but all DCs seem reverted to old indexes. A site expired long before and now is in godaddy's database is still ranking in the SERPs for a keyword combination that I currently monitoring even though cache shows godaddy ads.

Atomic

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:44 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is not your flux you are looking for, it is jagger 2, G has removed from the load balanced pool on "9" the servers serving up the J3 results, they did this the other night before rolling out J3 to more datacenters, and IMHO this is what is happening now. I would not consider this your Flux.

I'd bank on this (In more ways that one)

claimsweb

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Msg#: 31943 posted 8:51 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

This aint flux
What Im seeing is similar to the 7 DC or similar from last week. One things for sure it definitely isnt anything like the 9 Ive been watching all week.

Across the board, my results are different - not just a tweak with the odd result

Im with you WW_Watcher - maybe its part of the roll out. Maybe they are just jerking our chain

What a way to spend your saturday night - is it 9 - is it 7 - is it a roll back - a roll out? Who the heck knows. Just turn all the dials at the same time and end the pain G.

reseller

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Msg#: 31943 posted 9:01 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

WW_Watcher

>>Reseller, in your ultimate wisdom

This is not your flux you are looking for, it is jagger 2, G has removed from the load balanced pool on "9" the servers serving up the J3 results, they did this the other night before rolling out J3 to more datacenters, and IMHO this is what is happening now. I would not consider this your Flux. <<

In conection to Jagger3, FLUX might be described as the state of everchanging serps on the DCs for a limited time period after the end of Jagger3.

However, and as I mentioned in previous post today, I have a feeling that the folks at the plex are still working on improving the final results of Jagger3. Something like tweaking during the FLUX.

And I know that the dog ate Jagger3 for a short time the other morning (my local time - GMT+1). But we are not talking about the disappearance of Jagger3 for hours or days.

Therefore the FLUX is more relevant to describe the general situation at present.

lee_sufc

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Msg#: 31943 posted 9:01 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

just noticed more changes together with the sponsored links box at the bottom of the page...wierd!

Kangol

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 9:05 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do not see any link...where? what?
9 just shape shifft again.

[edited by: Kangol at 9:09 pm (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]

WW_Watcher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 9:08 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reseller

<< FLUX might be described as the state of everchanging serps >> = "everflux"

I would describe the process of rolling out J3 to other datacenters as the rollout of J3 to other datacenters.

We will see what we will see. Only time will tell.

Back to watching
WW_Watcher

claimsweb

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 9:10 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

the Old 9 has just returned - with a minor adjustment on one of my listings
But its back

Kangol

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 9:13 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

The Old 9 is back but I jumped from #35 to #22. Some internal pages started to rank.

reseller

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Msg#: 31943 posted 9:20 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

WW_Watcher

"Reseller

<< FLUX might be described as the state of everchanging serps >> = "everflux"

I would describe the process of rolling out J3 to other datacenters as the rollout of J3 to other datacenters. ""

EVERFLUX happen between two updates.

FLUX follow an upadte for a limited time.

>>I would describe the process of rolling out J3 to other datacenters as the rollout of J3 to other datacenters.<<

That process has nothing to do with FLUX or EVERFLUX.

WW_Watcher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31943 posted 9:32 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reseller,

Throughout this entire update, everflux as been adding in new data, and re-arranging the results, on J1-3.

I changed every page of my site, to remove the javascript redirects(legit redirects to load orphaned pages into framesets), and to impliment a new javascript menuing system to remove the dependance on frames. I also created a sitemap for the site. All things I needed to do anyway to both improve the user experience, and to further improve my rankings. I have watched the data be indexed, and my site's pages in most keyword combinations move (mostly up), while other sites in the serps remaining mostly where they were. This movement (everflux) has occured within all the Jagger steps.

IMHO What GG was referring to as FLUX after the J3 update might be changes AFTER the J3 update, which has not yet been rolled out to all the datacenters, therefore not yet ready for the FLUX you are wanting to promote.

It is still MHO that what we are seeing is the rollout. Not the changes after the rollout.

Back to Watching
WW_Watcher

Edited to add,
I also implimented the .htaccess mod to do the redirect from non-www to www, and I started all these changes right before J1, when GG was reccomending the javascript redirect issue, and the WWW vs Non-WWW issue.

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