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Update Saga. Part 5
Brett_Tabke




msg:754449
 8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

 

Dayo_UK




msg:754749
 8:32 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>Should I understand that you intend to join us in "Jagger3 Fans Club" :-)

Lol - No.

I am just hoping a crawl will help my site - pages are slowly getting added back to the index - not ranking but I am hoping that it will sort of snowball.

EG. Pages get listed, these pages are saying www.domain.com is homepage - Google believes these pages - Homepage returns :)

CainIV




msg:754750
 8:37 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Its all about the babay steps Dayo :) Here hoping they all come back for you.

reseller




msg:754751
 8:43 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Dayo_UK

>>I am just hoping a crawl will help my site - pages are slowly getting added back to the index - not ranking but I am hoping that it will sort of snowball.<<

I do believe that Jagger3 is doing a good job, silently, on the canonical issues front. I could see that on my own homepage where the cache suddenly got updated as I posted previously.

GoogleGuy




msg:754752
 8:45 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

followgreg, got 3 out of 4 and can take immediate action on those. The other one (the network) will take a little more pulling, but I asked someone smart to look into it.

mypattaya




msg:754753
 8:49 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Any idea about the next sandbox released?

1 year old site, main keywords produce 3.4 million results.

Jagger results are looking good though.

LegalAlien




msg:754754
 8:49 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

GoogleGuy,

I'd just like to say a big thank you for taking the time to keep us posted. Your posts have been very reassuring during this l-o-n-g update; particularly during the heavy flux times.

Results on .9 look pretty close to pre-Jagger for our area. The top 30 results for 15 phrases that I monitor have lost 17 spammy sites and gained a few really good sites that I haven't seen before.

All-in-all this appears to be a good update, although perhaps not on the dramatic scale that we initially anticipated.

Kangol




msg:754755
 9:13 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

64.233.179.99 looks good for my terms...

GoogleGuy




msg:754756
 9:14 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Happy to try to help, LegalAlien--glad it looks okay to you.

lee_sufc




msg:754757
 9:14 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Kangol - you aren't the only one - I think those results look amazing! Not only for me, but my industry in general! Why can't this DC be Jagger3? :-(

What does everyone else here think of [64.233.179.99?...]

GoogleGuy




msg:754758
 9:15 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Heading to bed, catch y'all later..

Mountdoom




msg:754759
 9:19 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry for being dense, but which *9* dc are we talking about? I've been out of the loop for a week (my daughter had an emergency appendectomy on Monday). While I was there I asked the surgeon about my SERPS problem and he gave me some cream...

reseller




msg:754760
 9:20 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good night GG

And thanks for feedback and "spam reporting" actions.

Kangol




msg:754761
 9:20 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Will there be any more changes on 9? There are some things that do not look right from what I am looking at.

64.233.179.99 solves some of the problems I see on 9 right now.

Eazygoin




msg:754762
 9:28 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Mountdoom>>

66.102.9.104 is what you're looking for :-)

LegalAlien




msg:754763
 9:31 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> What does everyone else here think of [64.233.179.99?...] <<

In our area it appears to be a reshuffle of the same top-30 sites that appear on .9, plus 3 or 4 additional sites that don't exist on .9. I also noticed a few large sites with additional (indented) pages listed, whereas these additional listings don't appear on .9.

Apart from that, I don't see too much difference -- at least in the first three pages (I checked 5 phrases).

McMohan




msg:754764
 9:31 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

64.233.179.99 looks to me like a merger of pre-jagger and Jagger. Surprised to see Mcdar tool isn't giving the actual rankings in this dc?

Mountdoom




msg:754765
 9:32 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks Eazygoin. I was afraid that was it. Will order more serps cream...

steveb




msg:754766
 9:36 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

64.233.179.99

Hopelessly old data, with many more supplementals, unfortunately. It even includes a bunch of pages that the rest of Google knows have been 301ed for over a month.

Definitely not ready for prime time.

[edited by: steveb at 9:37 am (utc) on Nov. 11, 2005]

Kangol




msg:754767
 9:37 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

On 64.233.179.99 I am on #15, on 9 I am on #38...
I see less keyword.freehost.com/keyword.html spam there.
Well, back to the drawing board...

zammo




msg:754768
 9:46 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Am starting to see some of our bigger client sites with lots of recips coming back to where they previously were in the SERPS. These sites got hit from day one but we sat tight and that seems to have been a wise move. The only site that is not back in SERPS yet, is our own site but when we do an allinanchor and allintitle search we appear on the first page for most of our major keywords. I recall this happening whilst we were in the 'sandbox', so I think there is the possibility that we have been sandboxed again. Why I am not 100 pc sure? But we did re-skin our front-end a few months ago (but kept more or less the same content) so maybe Google has sandboxed us for this.

followgreg




msg:754769
 9:55 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)


followgreg, got 3 out of 4 and can take immediate action on those. The other one (the network) will take a little more pulling, but I asked someone smart to look into it.

Well Googleguy, I have to say that you guys are back in my book - If Yahoo (which I hate for multiple reasons lol) and MSN would take user's feedback that seriously, the internet would be much cleaner.

I understand the need of "putting someone smart" on the network one you are talking about...quite a few other sites involved!

I had an excel spreadsheet with spam sites while ago, will see if I can find it back - lol sounds like I spend my time doing that - Internships at Googleplex spam dept? ;-) kidding ...
Thanks

Tarnas




msg:754770
 10:09 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

zammo,I have the same experience. We made a relaunch of our web site (the content more or less the same) before the J started. Our allins are still in top10 but dropped in SERP to page 6.

Miop




msg:754771
 10:23 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

<http://64.233.179.99? >

Awful - old content and I've dropped yet another 4 pages.
Top serps look ok but after page 1, more directories and links pages.

lee_sufc




msg:754772
 10:25 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

with regards to the .9 DC - could someone just tell me something..

Using allinanchor on that, I am in a fairly good position for most keywords but without it I am not even on first page - is this what the SERPS would eventually look similar to? (Or am I being thick?)

followgreg




msg:754773
 10:50 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)


>>lee_sufc if this is a new site = sandbox

Otherwize you're being filtered for some reason - Over SEO, bad incoming links etc...or glitch

lee_sufc




msg:754774
 11:03 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

followgreg - the site is 2.5 years old and I don't believe I am doing anything wrong on my site....well, not deliberately?!?

Is there anyone here willing to look over my site for me if I PM you?

zeus




msg:754775
 11:16 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

64.233.179.99 - JESUS what is that, could it realy be that jagger3 has hit the serps now for real, well it looks like it, I see very clean serps in some part where it before was full of non www and supplemental results.

One thing Im now am a little scared of is are those now going to the sandbox or will they rank again after they get there PR back

Still Im currious why it took so long or what was the trouble.

Kangol




msg:754776
 11:24 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

That DC is just a test is not J3...

zeus




msg:754777
 11:26 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Kangol maybe its just a test DB, but it had non supplemental results, all have description and many non sites are gone.

Kangol




msg:754778
 11:31 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

To be honest I rank better there. Unfortunately (for me) is just a test DB, GG said that.

[66.102.9.104...] will be the one.

zeus




msg:754779
 11:38 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

but those test could be related to a REAL fix on the non www issue and supplemental results, they are not testing for fun, so maybe part of that will come to the real serps.

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