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Duplicate Website
for ppc
Sheppy




msg:748160
 2:52 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would like to duplicate a website I have, word for word, to use only for pay per click campaigns to better keep track of my ROI. Will I be absolute safe from getting nailed for duplicate content by using "noindex,nofollow"? I have a good site with great content that I would like to use, but it is hard to keep track of ROI when you mix in the traffic from google.

 

Sheppy




msg:748161
 12:20 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

anybody?

nsqlg




msg:748162
 12:22 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

You can use the robots.txt

User-agent: googlebot
Disallow: /

cws3di




msg:748163
 1:35 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

I can't imagine why you would want to do such a thing. Why would you risk it?

What possible benefit do you think you will get from a mirror site?

Are there not enough examples of penalties from this ancient black-hat tactic to give you pause and realize you shouldn't try to cheat or hide or cloak it?

walkman




msg:748164
 2:23 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> You can use the robots.txt

You're still risking it, big time. Never know when GoogleBot shows up drunk at your site and grabs everything, robots.txt or no robots.txt :)

Sheppy




msg:748165
 2:59 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the replys, that is what I was looking for, "what is the risk" I will have to try to find some other way to track my ppc campaigns.

bnhall




msg:748166
 3:30 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

when using ppc campaigns I aways use a destination url like mysite.com/?ppc1 or mysite.com/?ppc2. Then pretty much anyone that goes straight to / was free traffic. Not perfect but does the job.

walkman




msg:748167
 3:41 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> mysite.com/?ppc1

gotta be EXTREMELY careful as Google sees them as dupes. Your index page might be hit with a dupe penalty if Google sees it

jgbmarc




msg:748168
 1:48 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Curious:
If you do find that you have a duplicate penalty.. what is the course of action to take?

I have a PR 6 site 6 years old with thousands of natural and relevant backlinks.. some time ago we syndicated the content to partners by wrapping their templates around a URL that was ours. Obviously a stupid mistake...but it was an innocent mistake. The site has always been a fun hobby and we never even watched SERPs / knew what to do or not to do.

Anyways, the syndication has since been ended so in essence we've 'cleaned up' the site. We still rank OK for certain terms but a lot of our true content is now in the supplemental index.

Tried a reinclusion request just a few days ago.. do i have a hope in the world?

Thanks for the help.

webbnissen




msg:748169
 3:08 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

The parameter option sounds better than making a whole new website which sounds hard to handle.

I hear the 'duplicate penalty' as a returning warning. If I'm thinking logically, from the searcher perspective, why would Google punish that site because a technique is useful for internal interests? isn't it just for Google to group/filter out the least ranked with equally url? I mean have more urls that gives same content, why is that a cheat in a search engine?

elaineb




msg:748170
 3:23 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

"GoogleBot shows up drunk"

wow - that explains everything :)

Wizard




msg:748171
 7:29 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't understand why use /?affid=#*$! in ppc! Obviously, there is partner url showing in HTTP_REFERER so it's enough for script to track it correctly without adding the stuff in link url!

Munster




msg:748172
 9:51 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

cws3di, you should think before taring people with the 'Black hat' brush. There is no way in hell this is a black hat trick, this method of mirroring sites for ppc tracking purposes is common practice. Whether google likes it or not is another matter.

Munst

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