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:-( : Update...false alarm Sept 2005
What *is* an Update?
straticus




msg:771047
 8:06 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]



It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!

 

deanril




msg:771257
 4:56 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes Joeduck

site:mysite.com shows all, well 12,500 was like 4150 a couple days ago, at anyrate 1000 of them yes, most have a title then below desriptions.

This thing happened to another site of mine on the last update, first home page gone, then a few days one by one all pages started to go, then one by one all came back in like a couple hours(new data rolling in i guess). Was kinda kewl to watch your site re errect from the dead...

This started same way, but now its only the home page, like its..... stuck, needs a swift kick to start fading out all my pages, then bringing them all back ;)

[edited by: deanril at 4:59 am (utc) on Sep. 8, 2005]

edd1




msg:771258
 4:58 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Why was the update announcement up so early and why is it still there? People must be coming online all the time and seeing it and then ploughing through the best part of twenty pages until they realise there wasn't one. And it's not even April 1st

deanril




msg:771259
 5:05 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well clearly the Directory was updated, backlinks were, as far as I can see in my area. The serps I watch are definately a bit different(after like the 5th serp, theres alot of weird pages showing, then at about 15 more of the old stuff showing) <<< different.

Page count alah>> site:yoursite.com has gone way up, some say 10x.

My Home Page dissapeared. And is still missing in action, no cache etc....

Some one said early, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, well it must be a duck right?

joeduck




msg:771260
 5:12 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm with deanril - I hear the quacking getting closer and...closer....and.....

In one of the Google talks in New Orleans it was pointed out that there are many algo updates that go totally unnoticed here at WebmasterWorld. It seemed to me that the scale of the update may depend on one's niche,site, and many other factors.

edd1




msg:771261
 5:18 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm with GoogleGuy - No update. I see bigger changes in the SERPS most days.

deanril




msg:771262
 5:20 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Im with the Duck!

smokey99




msg:771263
 5:21 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks JoeDuck, I'll try that
Won't ever turn that on again :-)

modemmike




msg:771264
 5:22 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Aflac

Sorry to add to the post count but I couldn't resist!

reseller




msg:771265
 5:26 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good morning GoogleGuy

Thanks for clarifying the current situation for us. Much appreciated.

joeduck




msg:771266
 5:34 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

GG:
Yah, this isn't an update. Backlinks/Directory data may be freshly visible, but the core data hasn't changed more than the usual everflux.

Whoops - I missed GG's earlier post. This is NOT an update regardless of any of our quacks to the quontrary....

deanril - submit the reinclusion request...I'm wondering if you could use that "spam report" with keyword gilligan to get fast attention, though it might have a bit of risk since that's a non spam report.

deanril




msg:771267
 5:41 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah thanks for your help joeduck. This is odd but like I say its just the home page. Hopefully will work itself out. I think ill let it stir for a bit see what happens.

reseller




msg:771268
 5:42 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

joeduck

>>deanril - submit the reinclusion request...I'm wondering if you could use that "spam report" with keyword gilligan to get fast attention, though it might have a bit of risk since that's a non spam report.<<

I wouldn´t do that. The link GoogleGuy mentioned is only for reporting spam. Lets leave it that way ;-)

"If you see spam currently, feel free to report it at
[google.com...]
with the keyword Gilligan and I'll ask folks to check out the reports though."

deanril




msg:771269
 5:48 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Im with the Duck! Whoops I mean reseller! Yeah would'nt go that route for my home page being out of the index.

joeduck




msg:771270
 5:48 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

reseller -

OK with me, but maybe deanril likes to ... live dangerously and hope to get direct attention from the architects themselves.

deanril




msg:771271
 5:51 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Exactly, I like to keep a looooooooooooow profile, I remember a while back Google actually called me at work, was like #*$!? Was the advertising guys trying to promote some advertising for one of my sites. In the past my comments were'nt so pleasant so I definately keep my site away from the google radar.

joeduck




msg:771272
 6:06 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

deanril - I just meant dangerous by using a spam report... IMO you *want* attention from the engineers if you have a site problem.

pescatore




msg:771273
 6:13 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

you better keep an eye on those 2 data centers
66.102.11.104
216.239.59.104
if they spread then it is an update in serps.

edd1




msg:771274
 6:17 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

How do you know, I don't see it. I can think of no reason why gg would say no update if there is one.

But on the other hand I don't understand why there is still an update headline on ww frontpage.

joeduck




msg:771275
 6:41 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

... "update" Gilligan was aptly named - he was always screwing things up in the show....

reseller




msg:771276
 6:47 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

The datacenters have been in movement (sometimes very vigorous) for a week or so.

I would have thought that its a "pre-update" stage. But it might as well be the good old days "everflux", as GoogleGuy mentioned in his post.

Still see that the serps need a thorough cleaning, especially at top 10 listings in the sector I watch. This can´t be resolved by the "everflux" but by an update.

MarkHutch




msg:771277
 7:00 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

How do you know, I don't see it. I can think of no reason why gg would say no update if there is one.

But on the other hand I don't understand why there is still an update headline on ww frontpage.

GG might have shown up again BECAUSE of the headline, if this isn't an update. I'm sure Google doesn't want this news to go mainstream if it's not true.

GoogleGuy




msg:771278
 7:29 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey, joeduck, nice to see you. Things at the plex are the same as usual (crazy busy), but I saw the headline and wanted to duck in.

deanril, if it's only your root page and you see other pages if you do site:yourdomain.com, I wouldn't worry about it and I'd give it a little time.

GoogleGuy




msg:771279
 7:31 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

nsqlg, I'm not sure I'm understanding you. If you've got a directory full of doorway pages that do JavaScript redirects, I'd highly recommend removing that immediately. We've been improving our ability to find pages like that, and it's much better to remove it before we take action on it. :)

Hope that helps..

GoogleGuy




msg:771280
 7:32 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

But just to repeat: there's no algo changes going on right now.

modemmike




msg:771281
 7:47 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

GG, is there anything than can be done to get a site out of obscurity after a 301 redirect? Seems to be a hot topic and there is a lot of conjecture floating around about what works and what doesn't… some report great success others say it took 6+ months… any help would be greatly appreciated.

dramstore




msg:771282
 7:57 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

May not be an update going on but my (white hat) site has gone again, for all keywords from page 1 to page 4+

Just recovered from bourbon too, now similar symptoms eg shows on page 4 for "my unique site name"

Oh well, here we go again...

reseller




msg:771283
 8:02 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

GoogleGuy

>>But just to repeat: there's no algo changes going on right now.<<

Thanks GG.

Awaiting for the next update "between now and December 2005", maybe ;-)

reseller




msg:771284
 8:09 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe we need to change the subject of this thread from Update Gilligan to Everflux Gilligan ;-)

Sometimes I love Google. It keeps me young, going strong and retains my blood pressure in "everflux" ...

DaveN




msg:771285
 8:13 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

this is an INCREASE index size .. thats all folk.. update happens in 2 weeks :)

DaveN

lufc1955




msg:771286
 8:18 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's possible that an update started but for technical reasons it had to be postponed. Yesterday all the data centres were showing my updated backlinks, but today many of the data centres have gone back to the previous back link counts. Maybe the proper update will start once the back link updates have been fully completed.

oddsod




msg:771287
 8:19 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Almost spot on DaveN. It's happening in a little under two weeks... going by time intervals between previous updates :)

Will somebody please change the thread title and the entry on the homepage?

<added>
>> Yesterday all the data centres were showing my updated backlinks

Updated backlinks, updated PR, updated directory are not the same as algo update and not necessarily either a precusor to algo update or any indication of one happening behind the scenes. (That's not specifically directed at anyone but generally against all those who seem to believe there's a connection)

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