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:-( : Update...false alarm Sept 2005
What *is* an Update?
straticus

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:06 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!

 

joost

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Msg#: 31072 posted 7:26 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's definitely an update. On 72.14.207.104, I see new search results and new incoming links. I also see fewer incoming links on all my sites, so I hope the update is not yet finished. On my local DC (in the Netherlands) I do not see the changes yet.

reseller

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Msg#: 31072 posted 7:45 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Brett!

Have you heard anything at the Corner of Haight and Ashbury about what we are just seeing?

Thanks a bunch ;-)

wanderingmind

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:39 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

72.14.207.104 has updated backlinks.

It is Sep 5 already, anyone who lost visitors in August seeing them returning after their vacations? :)

Not me. Not yet.

jd01

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:46 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, you've gotten me almost every day for a week, but I think it's a niche, or a few niches - the biggest thing I have seen is a position swap... ooooh, aaaaaah

OTOH If you keep predicting the inevitable, you will inevitably be right. =)

Justin

reseller

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Msg#: 31072 posted 9:41 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jd01

>>OTOH If you keep predicting the inevitable, you will inevitably be right. <<

How about this one.

I´m predicting herewith that my site which has lost almost all its Google´s referrals, during Allegra and later on 22nd July) will be again on top of the serps sometime between now and December 2005 (the date mentioned by GoogleGuy) ;-)

ska_demon

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 9:58 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see no change at all. No BL update, No PR update and no movement in SERPs. In my sector there would appear to be no change whatever and my niche is very competetive.

Ska

whatley

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Msg#: 31072 posted 11:30 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Quick Question for you guys.

I have been watching my Cache dates for the last 3-4 weeks everyday and they have now changed, but not to a date more recent than the last - its going back to dates in July!

Any ideas?

nsqlg

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Msg#: 31072 posted 11:46 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Traffic of my main site (authority) is stable, but another domain (penalized in Bourbon) has growing everyday, today 25% more than last monday, so an update will be good for me I guess :)

ramachandra

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Msg#: 31072 posted 2:35 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)


Till yesterday my website cache date showing 21st August 2005 and today its showing 16th July 2005.

I am not getting why cache date has gone back to July.

Anyone know what is going on?

deanril

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Msg#: 31072 posted 3:42 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seeing more in my niche, athority sites with their home pages grey bared. No-cache for home page. Rest of site ok.

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 31072 posted 3:44 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>Seeing more in my niche, athority sites with their home pages grey bared. No-cache for home page. Rest of site ok.

This has been happening for a long while - would love some feedback from G on this - did send an email - no reply :(

However, when I have seen it happen the home pages do come back.

Very very strange.

deanril

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 3:54 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah currently my bread winner site is like this, home page grey bared. Last update where we had 3 topics 150 pages each, same thing happened to my other bread winner. Then each page dropped out one by one, then they all came back one by one. Took like 5 days.

With Yahoo on the frits Im starting to get an impact from some of this as far as traffic goes.

Some of the grey bared home pages still showing in serps, so you can click on the site cache in the serp and get a Sep 4 cache, however when you go to the site and do a cache it shows nothing. No Cache. Weird. My guess they are rolling a index out or something and its not across all data centers yet, hence when you check the serp, you get the cache on that data center, then when your at the site and use toolbar you check cache(goes to different datacenter) and no cache.

outland88

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Msg#: 31072 posted 6:17 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, I too have been perplexed why caches keep jumping back to older dates. Any reasons for this?

jd01

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Msg#: 31072 posted 6:59 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reseller,

I´m predicting herewith that my site which has lost almost all its Google´s referrals, during Allegra and later on 22nd July) will be again on top of the serps sometime between now and December 2005 (the date mentioned by GoogleGuy) ;-)

I'll give you a dollar if you're right on this one =)

Just having some fun with you on the other one - you keep making me check, and what do I get? Same ol junk in my niche... Wish I could join the watching, but don't have time to monitor extra niches.

Justin

Erku

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Msg#: 31072 posted 7:11 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can someone please tell exactly how to check the backlinks?

thank you

reseller

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Msg#: 31072 posted 7:31 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Erku

>>Can someone please tell exactly how to check the backlinks?<<

You run command

link:www.yoursite.com

Just keep in mind that Google wouldn´t show you the exact number of backlinks but a "snapshot" of them.

Good luck ;-)

[edited by: reseller at 7:32 pm (utc) on Sep. 5, 2005]

pokerjoker

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Msg#: 31072 posted 7:32 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

You can check backlinks using the following search:

link:www.example.com

On a related note, I know that popular opinion is that the backlinks displayed as a result of this search are pretty much meaningless. But what does it mean when you go from over 600 backlinks to a single link (the current backlink update shows my site with only a single backlink)? My SERPs haven't changed much, but the backlinks sure have.

Any ideas?

SEOPTI

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:05 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

No, don't check it with link: that's nonsense, never check backlinks with Google. Google shows only 2% of all backlinks.

Go to Yahoo! and use this command:

linkdomain:www.yoursites.com -site:www.yoursites.com

This will give you the backlinks you are looking for.

reseller

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:10 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jd01

>>Just having some fun with you on the other one - you keep making me check, and what do I get? Same ol junk in my niche... Wish I could join the watching, but don't have time to monitor extra niches. <<

Most welcome ;-)

The same here, my niche doesn´t look better than yours at all.

Lorel

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Msg#: 31072 posted 8:11 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)


Question for the more seasoned SEO's:
Has Google in past history ever done a PR, BL and ALGO change all in the same week? Doesn't seem likely but I was curious.

according to one source I watch, this (along with a G. directory update) occured on Apr 22, 05, i.e., Bourbon.

Re what is happening, I just checked 30 sites I manage (all in different niches and ages) and am only seeing a backlink update on the following data centers:

72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.106

Some backlinks increased on those sites I have been actively gathering links for and down, or the same, on others with no link gathering going on.

No PR changes.

Nikke

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 9:53 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

A really new site that I manage just received it's first five backlinks with the link: command using the above three DCs.

The site was registered on the first day of July and populated during August.

All five pages are internal, the index page is not among them (allthough it's linked from every single page on the site). These five pages don't even have that many internal links within tha page.

They are all reached 2 levels down from the index page. However all five can be reached following several different paths.

Weird. The only possible solution that I can see seems to be found in the fact that these five pages each contain an outgoing link to one of five different PR 6+ sites...

Iguana

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Msg#: 31072 posted 11:16 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not again. Don't you realise that Google knows its only webmasters that use the backlinks check. It's been 2 years since they meant anything and even then it depended on the on the pagerank trigger as to how many were in your count.

I had a website go from 60 backlinks to 4000+ for a month. It meant nothing -no extra traffic from Google. It's only where you appear in the SERPS that matters! There's some poor bloke in the depths of the Googleplex (in a side room just by the air conditioning units) whose job it is to update this meaningless count for webmasters. Google figured out long ago that the people who create websites are the enemy to good search results.

kokaroach

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Msg#: 31072 posted 11:34 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm officially naming this one "The Labor Day Update"

BillyS

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Msg#: 31072 posted 12:08 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

We've gone from "Fluxuations" to "Updatetd." Maybe this update should be named after a hurricane or tornado - cuz the words are all jumbled up.

jcmiras

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 4:10 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe the interesting question is, will this update affect your SERP or it is just a display update?

ezyid

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 5:35 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do not think it will finish for a wile.. all my backlinks have gone down in all the DC's
Weard how i have 2-3x more backinks than last update.
oh well it'l be intresting to see..

patc

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 8:22 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just to clarify - when we say 'Update' these days, aren't we referring to an algo 'tweak'? I was under the impression Google stopped 'updates' a while ago. Does the refresh of the index (which they say takes a month or so) actually affect the SERPS in an update fashion? I thought that was what contributed to everflux...

So aren't we talking about Algo shifts? And if so, I guess they can happen at arbitrary times whenever google feels like it, and not necessarily in the pattern of PR/BL updates first/last, etc. Correct me if I'm definitely wrong!

linkjack



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 11:53 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

everytime they do this they get so much free advice that they might as well do it always....

at least what i see here is that they do some extreme change, wait for forum feedback.

if SEO's are really annoyed then keep the change.

if SEO's are happy then return to the drawing board.

(no i'm not a BASIC programmer, notice i said RETURN and not GO TO the drawing board)

and why is it so hard for some of you to see this?

REAL pros are always vewy vewy quiet. sssshhhhhhh

indigojo

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Msg#: 31072 posted 12:55 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing major PR fluctuations on and off for major sites, anyone else?

nippi

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Msg#: 31072 posted 11:39 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

anyone else seeing it?

rkhare

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 31072 posted 10:16 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

it seems most of us observed some or other form of massive dc changes. any new estimates of how much time a new PR update will take?

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