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:-( : Update...false alarm Sept 2005
What *is* an Update?
straticus




msg:771047
 8:06 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]



It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!

 

edd1




msg:771467
 3:21 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm not seeing changes but there must be some changes on regional or larger string searches because hits are up significantly today. I'm not jumping on the update bandwagon but it certainly must be close.

joeduck




msg:771468
 3:42 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Place your bets on the up...date. I say Sept. 14th.

hold on to your SERP, this is going to be a wild ride!

reseller




msg:771469
 5:32 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good morning Folks!

Im still waiting for Matt or GoogleGuy to give us "weather reports" ;-)

reseller




msg:771470
 5:48 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

BillyS

>>Well, I am sorry, but it's nearly 12 days later and I just don't see it. Just the normal flux.<<

It depends on how you define "normal flux" ;-)

Do you consider the followings as normal flux:

- new serps
- new backlinks
- new numbers of results
- fresh filters applied

oddsod




msg:771471
 7:26 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

but it's nearly 12 days later and I just don't see it

But I thought you noticed it 12 days ago (msg 9) [webmasterworld.com] ;)

Wibfision




msg:771472
 7:41 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think the update will be on September 23rd.

nippi




msg:771473
 9:19 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

looks like an update to me. I'm up on all sites

reseller




msg:771474
 10:33 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

nippi

Which sector(s) are your sites related to?

Thanks.

BillyS




msg:771475
 11:34 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

But I thought you noticed it 12 days ago (msg 9) ;)

I don't think that anyone here is talking about backlinks. They're talking SERPs.

What I find interesting is that GG has told us there was no change to the algo, yet some still believe there was a change.

rocco




msg:771476
 11:49 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

update is on its way

reseller




msg:771477
 12:07 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

BillyS

>>What I find interesting is that GG has told us there was no change to the algo, yet some still believe there was a change.<<

Some of us see things as Danny Sullivan does and still regard what happened as update.

[blog.searchenginewatch.com...]

So we disagree on the definition of whats an update with Matt and our kind fellow member GoogleGuy who might see things in a Googlish way, with all due respect ;-)

frfvr




msg:771478
 12:51 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

update is on its way
Is there any chance GG will inform us with a little detail on this?
zeus




msg:771479
 1:11 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

What is going on in this message, there is NO UPDATE right now, maybe a few site has been added and that can rotate the serps a LITTLE.

stakaman




msg:771480
 1:20 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Has anyone thought that G might be tweaking areas where it is underperforming in relevance, number of searches performed to get required results?

Could that explain the limited areas where changes have taken place?

Everyone is talking about a backlinks update. I can only see this for 1 of my 6 sites.

The appearance of extra results for some generic keywords could also be pointing to this direction.

Just a thought

Dayo_UK




msg:771481
 1:41 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well Google is always tweaking - perhaps GG and MC have underestimated the effect a tweak has had on a lot of webmasters.

I dont know - seems strange - obviously the biggest thing they need to fix is canonical urls - if/when they fix it or each attempt things happen - but does that qualify us an update.? Who knows!

nippi




msg:771482
 1:45 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

reseller

regional accommodation, seems backlinks from past 3 months now being taken into consideration

RS_200_gto




msg:771483
 2:18 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

The SERPs have changed for us, the backlinks have increased from 4,800 to 26,700 on one site and 15,900 to 48,800 on the other, and our traffic has dropped 20%.

reseller




msg:771484
 2:29 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

RS_200_gto

>>The SERPs have changed for us, the backlinks have increased from 4,800 to 26,700 on one site and 15,900 to 48,800 on the other, and our traffic has dropped 20%. <<

Would you be kind to post which sector you are in. Because it seems that Google is tweaking/updating by sectors.

Thanks.

Angelis




msg:771485
 2:52 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Make sure you are distinguishing between backlinks and pages in your website, typing the wrong command into the google search page can make you a little overexcited as a lot of the pages listed could well be pages from your site.

RS_200_gto




msg:771486
 3:10 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

reseller

Our sector is in employment and in motorsports.

webhound




msg:771487
 3:40 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Call it what you will, I see pretty significant shifts in the serps I watch.

ltedesco




msg:771488
 3:51 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Same sh#* in my area.
I am getting realy frustated.
GoogleGuy, please finish all these speculation and anxiety and close this thread. Is there any update coming or not?

reseller




msg:771489
 3:54 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi webhound & ltedesco

Which sector are you watching?

Sorry folks for asking the same question sveral times today. Just wish to see which sectors are affected at the moment ;-)

jgbmarc




msg:771490
 4:18 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am still not seeing anything different other than a few position shifts (which I have seen for months now) in the SERPs in my world.

However, a 'sitename' only search is bringing up 4 times as many results as it did two weeks ago. Jumped from 25k to 104k as of this morning.

Yes GoogleGuy, step in and enlighten us.

gweston




msg:771491
 4:29 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am pretty sure that Google is jumping back to some old results from about a month ago.

But one thing that I am sure of, it would be better off to focus on site building and come back and check my results in a month rather then constantly looking at 2 up 3 down 4 up types of changes.

This kind of reminds of stock trading...constantly looking at intraday results trying to figure out every 10 minute conspiracy when none exists.

I am going to think of this as a opportunity to get more work in before the next update.

nsqlg




msg:771492
 4:31 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

This kind of reminds of stock trading...constantly looking at intraday results trying to figure out every 10 minute conspiracy when none exists.

Perfect!

ltedesco




msg:771493
 5:05 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

reseller

I am in the Travel Business

chopin2256




msg:771494
 5:30 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is no update in the music sector....same old stagnant results. And of course I am still penalized from the last update as I expected. Has anyone suffered from last update, and still suffering now?

taps




msg:771495
 5:32 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

See some changes too. Google seems to be shuffling. Yet it's not the movement I'd expect from an update.

Hey, why not call this update "false alarm". Everyone would be happy with that and the subject line will be correct in any case. ;-)

Trisha




msg:771496
 5:55 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

And of course I am still penalized from the last update as I expected. Has anyone suffered from last update, and still suffering now?

yes, and I am hoping that whenever the next update is things will get better. But who knows?

joeduck




msg:771497
 6:04 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

We've had major problems with Google ranking since Allegra and they continue. I'm rooting for Gilligan to shake things out with respect to extensive scraping which appears to have affected us with "duplicate content" filters - though we had other problems of our own making as well.

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