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When Does Google Pick the meta Description or a Paragraph?
Why some sites are described differently in the snippet.
silverbytes




msg:709077
 4:48 pm on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

When does Google pick you meta description or a paragrahp? Some descriptions in search results are taken from meta and sometimes not...

 

Bobby




msg:709078
 7:03 pm on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

silverbytes, that's a good question and one I've wondered about myself.

It seems to me that it all depends on the search terms and how they match up with the rest of the site.

To make things even more confusing I see Google return the Dmoz directory description at times too, if a main keyword is in the search string and also present in the directory description.

Coop99




msg:709079
 7:12 pm on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

sometimes dmoz description , sometimes meta description, sometimes page content shows as description, it depends on the search query and the words used in that search in my opinion!

MichaelCrawford




msg:709080
 7:13 pm on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see Google return the Dmoz directory description

That's been the cause of quite some despair in my case. I think it's great that I'm listed in DMOZ, but not that my listing is five years out of date. I've tried many times to change my site's description, but the category editor has never responded.

webdude




msg:709081
 7:41 pm on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ahhhh... here is an old question. Check out...

[webmasterworld.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...]

And even way back here...

[webmasterworld.com...]

Still a lot of theories on this one.

silverbytes




msg:709082
 1:13 am on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I noticed one of my sites using dmoz description but days before used to show meta tag. No clue the reason why.

Coop99




msg:709083
 1:43 am on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

silverbytes - it is random depending on the search term you use. Also sometimes google will show your DMOZ title in a search query, especially if it is your company or url name.

I only started noticing this a couple of months back. I think it is an adjustment that google made to show google directory titles and descriptions in search queries. It wouldnt surprise me if google started to list under a site url the google directory category if the site is in.

example:

Funny Widgets
Offering widgets of all shapes and sizes for your pleasure.
[funnywidgets.com...]
Computers > Programming > Languages > Widgets

We will see if I am good at guessing!

DaveAtIFG




msg:709084
 5:18 am on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

In message #4 of this recent thread [webmasterworld.com], GoogleGuy says,
.... in message 33 of the first Bourbon thread you mention that you sometimes see your meta description shown instead of the typical Google snippet. That's something that we've been experimenting with for a little while. To be honest, I'm not sure what the exact criteria are for using the meta description instead of a normal snippet, but it's independent of the update. You can assume that we're always looking at different ways of giving snippets (from the text of the page, from an ODP description, from meta descriptions) and trying to find what's the most useful result for a searcher.

Coop99




msg:709085
 5:21 am on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

thanks dave

silverbytes




msg:709086
 2:37 pm on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

My guessing is they are experimenting. Since dmoz description are "objective" that fights against SEO in Google's effort to bring useful results.
The main problem: dmoz descriptions are not good depending on editor and you can do nothing to change that.

webdude




msg:709087
 5:39 pm on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

silverbytes,

I agree. The description they have for my hobby site says that it is a forum, yet the forum is just a very small part of the site. Kind of bums me out when certain searches have the DMOZ desciption. It isn't even close to what the site is all about. I have tried for the past year and a half to get the description changed in DMOZ, but it falls on deaf ears. It's their way or the highway, I guess.

victor




msg:709088
 8:59 pm on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

The main problem: dmoz descriptions are not good depending on editor and you can do nothing to change that.

The DMOZ descriptions may be inadequate as they usually need to be read in conjunction with the category name:

Provides tools for analyzing virus infections

is missing a vital bit of content -- is the category Microbiology or Microsoft operating systems?

So there are two obvious things you can do to change Google's usage of inappropriate or out-of-context DMOZ descriptions:

1. Do a summary of a few results pages, highlight the entries that have a DMOZ description that is not appropriate, and send it to Google's quality guys.

If they see the evidence they might take action. If they don't, they may well think that all is well with the DMOZ description experiment.

2. Provide Google with a better source of "objective" descriptions. Google is using DMOZ becuse it is good enough for their purposes.

But they'd be fools not to use something else that was better.

So get together with all the other posters here in the last year who say (in various ways) that DMOZ sucks and/or they have an idea for doing something better, and do something better.

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