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Google PR Update
Coop99

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 12:06 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Noticed changes in PR for sites of mine right now! Finally!

 

jaloher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 12:33 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

better do nothing

Coop99

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 12:42 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Anyone notice a site that shows up in the google index when you query "domainnameonly" w/o dot com, but when you search for it using "domainname.com" or "www.domainname.com" there are no results at all.

When I search with the "domainnameonly" it even shows up with a title and description in the results. When I search for the "domain(space)name" it also shows up 1st page.

There is a www.flashpage that is indexed and when I query "domainnameonly" the url shows w/o "www" it is only "domainname.com"

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Sorry if this is confusing, also didnt know where else to post tried the new topic didnt work!

theBear

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 12:52 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

MichaelCrawford,

I tried to visit that wonderfull site you posted the url of.

How come when I click on the link, I get a connection refused message?

Does that mean that the DNS folks have banned it or that my broadband connection is busted?

Maria444

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 1:22 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can someone explain why I'm not seeing ANY update? Some new pages I've linked from the home page (PR5) over two months ago are still PR0, and Yahoo.com for me is still PR10.

Maria

knowledgepower

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 1:29 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

My baby went from PR 3 -> 4 with many internals moving from zero to 3.

Whatever. *goes back to content generation*

Coop99

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 1:36 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maria444 -

You may have a busted Toolbar on your hands. From time to time there are problems when you download the TB from Google. Just uninstall it and reinstall a fresh version from Google here:

[toolbar.google.com...]

There could also be a bad/down datacenter listed for toolbar queries. (I am not sure how to check that, with your hosts file I think)

Also if you ran any software that does automated queries to Google? (Link partner finders, rank checkers, etc.)If you query Google too much, too fast, you will get your IP banned. (If this is the case try connecting via a proxy server and see if the results are different)

MichaelCrawford



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 1:46 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

How come when I click on the link, I get a connection refused message?

It's because your Mom installed NetNanny after she discovered the sites you've been visiting in her browser history. Try using a PC at the library.

On a serious note, I want to point out that although more competition is always appearing, in the form of other commercial sites, there are also new users constantly getting new internet access.

In addition, people who used to be restricted to part-time dialup are increasingly gaining access to always-on broadband. My niece from rural newfoundland told me they have a cable modem now.

This means not only can they spend more time surfing the web, but also that whatever time they do spend is spent more productively, rather than drumming their fingers in boredom while our pages download.

Over any short period of time there will be peaks and valleys, but I feel confident in predicting that the long-term news will be good for all of us.

MichaelCrawford



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 1:49 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

There are google pagerank plugins for mozilla and firefox as well. Recent versions of netscape are based on mozilla. There is also an OS X tool for getting pagerank with safari.

I've used all these pretty reliably. I'm not sure if the pagerank query protocol was published or reverse-engineered, but I've seen source code for one tool and it's not very complex. Basically you calculate a hash of a url, then send the hash and the url together to a particular server at google, and it replies with a numeric string ranging from 0 to 10.

If you're using the google toolbar with explorer, you'd be better off getting firefox and a plugin. I know google has some tools that only work with explorer. Restrict your use of explorer to the times when you need to use those tools.

theBear

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 2:05 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

NetNanny

Lol, isn't that a *doze thingy?

Windows not installed here :-).

larryhatch

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Msg#: 30380 posted 2:06 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

HI Mich(etc.)

I love good porn, but even porn has rules. You can't show priests in the for one thing.

Mormons show really poor wine lists.

Maria444

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 3:39 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Coop99, I first went to another pc, downloaded the toolbar (they aren't using it there) and it also showed old PRs - Yahoo PR10, mine's 2 months' old new inner pages still PR0) then I went back to my pc, I uninstalled it, and re-installed it after having deleted all cookies, files and history - same thing, old PR on all sites. And no, I'm not using rank or link checkers a lot. I am aware that G hates them and I might have used the rank checker twice in 3 months for other sites, that's all. I don't need it because I rank #5 and #9 on my main keyword serps.

You suggest I go through a proxy server, but I don't even know what it is, let alone how to connect via a proxy server. Can you please show me?

Maria

Coop99

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 5:45 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is from google -

"it is most likely because the PageRank feature is incompatible with some aspect of your system. Often, users who work behind a firewall or proxy encounter this problem."

Unfortunately, we do not have a solution to pass along at this time. Our Toolbar engineering team is investigating this issue, and we hope to release an improved version of the PageRank feature in the future. In the meantime, we would recommend that you disable PageRank by performing the steps below:

1. Click on the "Options" button on your Toolbar.
2. Un-check the box next to "PageRank display."
3. Click "OK."

Sorry maria - wish I could help more - try toolbar forum

StephenR

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 6:44 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

My PR went up drastically for some of my pages. I had a few pages I put up on 06 Jun and they are now a PR 5. First time I've ever seen that sort of increase.

Nuttakorn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 6:49 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

My website also increase pagerank and also backward links. It takes a lot of time to update links and toolbar. Do you remember the last time of update toolbar?

reseller

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 8:43 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maria444

>Can someone explain why I'm not seeing ANY update? <

You may wish to uninstall the toolbar and then reinstall it again. Sometimes thats help.

Maria444

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 8:51 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reseller I have already done that (If you notice in my last post I'm mentioning this) - I'm becoming crazy - does that mean I have to (temporarily) give up Norton? And how do I do that. I had no problems with the last update in April!

Maria

reseller

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Msg#: 30380 posted 9:09 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maria444

I have seen Norton firwall causing few problems (nothing to do with PR toolbar) with some of my friends PCs and I had to uninstall it to resolve the problems.

But its rather difficult to advise you to uninstall your firewall because that remove protection of your PC!

robster124

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 9:12 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Guys, what DC IPs are you seeing these PR changes?

There is STILL no change in toolbar PR here in the UK

Maria444

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 9:35 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Robster, Reseller, would THAT be the problem? (Location) I'm also located in Europe (Greece)

inbound

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 10:14 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you cannot see any changes try searching on google for future pagerank. I know many of you will know the page but obviously there are people that don't.

It's a handy tool that gathers the toolbar PR from a load of datacentres. It's only useful during an update so trying it now will let you see which datacentres are updated and which are lagging behind.

reseller

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Msg#: 30380 posted 10:15 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maria444

>Reseller, would THAT be the problem? (Location) I'm also located in Europe (Greece)<

Iīm also located in Europe but donīt have any problem with the PR toolbar.

jaloher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 10:32 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi
Can anyone tell me how to stop the email notification of replies?

Thank you

inbound

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Msg#: 30380 posted 10:38 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

To switch off notifications go to your control panel (top left of your screen next to webmasterworld logo. Then select "Furum Watch List" and deselect any that get too many replies.

cmarket

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Msg#: 30380 posted 11:00 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

In UK, and have seen a BL increase and a PR drop by 1... Think the drop is due to other issues that need resolving... But the UK is a-changing... Although my main competitors appear unchanged...

Does anyone know if orphaned pages will count against you if you leave them floating around if google knows/knew they exist?

The pages are non-related links pages which I opted to dispense with. (although now re-instating them)

Can you be penalised if you are seen to orphan links pages in this way?

thecityofgold2005

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 12:15 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

my site, dropped from 6 to 26 for my key search term after Bourbon is now at 7.

PR went from 5 to 0 and now is at 4.

Wooo hooo!

RichTC

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Msg#: 30380 posted 12:39 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just wanted to chip in that im absolutely certain that site age has a lot to do with page rank. You wont go to a PR8 overnight no matter how many links you get to it imo unless it gets to a certain age or the links to it are of a certain age to count.

I cant prove it because you never get two pages exactly the same on your site to give an exact science but on one of our sites a number of internal pages got PR5s and others got PR3s. The pages in question were structed in a similar way with equal numbers of outgoing links and similar numbers of incomming links in a similar site position. The PR3s pages were added at a later time to the PR5s - by about 3 months apart.

Event_King



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 2:44 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is pagerank to do with website age? I thought it was to do with a site's popularity, number of links pointing to it and content. But I'm not sure.

In lamens terms - how do you make PR increase?

Clint



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 2:54 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

(Msg #46 & 47), well, I'm screwed again! I just checked the PR again moments ago and it's back to what it was in MSG 46! Lost TWO PR spots on one of my sites!

To prove how INSANE whatever is going on is, my index page dropped a @#%#!@ point, yet my "main" page stayed the same, and NO ONE links to my main page! Now how can a page that has no incoming links stay the SAME and even have a HIGHER PR than a page that has ~a thousand incoming links!?

Furthermore, how can I drop a PR spot when G is now showing MORE backlinks that it previously did?! It is still only showing about 25 links (up from only 17) when it should be showing about a thousand! I guess link:MyDomain.com is still broken as well.

Clint



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 2:56 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>In laymen's terms - how do you make PR increase? <<<

Is is SUPPOSED to be the # of sites that link to you, but as I just indicated that's obviously not true.

Clint



 
Msg#: 30380 posted 3:02 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Rich, I have the SAME PR NOW, that I did the day the G toolbar with PR came out! AND, I only had handful of people linking to me then! So I wish someone could explain how that is possible.

I think G started this PR crap to just to form a "cult of PR junkies".

I see some mentioning PR has something to do with G SERP's, then others (as I've mostly seen here an other threads as well), say PR has nothing to do with G-SERP's. Someone please give the defintive answer on that. There are non-relevant PR0 sites that are appearing waaaaay above me in the G SERP's. So, this would indicate PR has no bearing on G SERP's.

Kirby

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Msg#: 30380 posted 3:04 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is pagerank to do with website age? I thought it was to do with a site's popularity, number of links pointing to it and content. But I'm not sure.

event_king, your question explains alot about your earlier posts. Page rank has nothing to do with web site quality, and outside of other webmasters, the searching public doesnt know about PR and doesnt take it into account when determining if your site is any good.

If you build a site with relevant quality content, people will link to it. I discovered an .edu link from an Ivy League university to one of my sites that I never would have even thought to ask for, but someone there thought the site a good resource (smart people at that school). You can also buy advertising on relevant sites that will send you traffic and, in some cases, the link will even pass PR. Nothing wrong with that in Google's eyes.

Google "page rank explained" and you will get some good resources on the subject.

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