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Moving Web Site From One Server to Another Server
Best method to avoid IP & DNS problems with Google,
VikramLashkari




msg:763799
 6:12 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi guys,

This question may be very common and simple to u all but it is bread and butter for me.I am planning to move my website to a new server (under a different IP), and needed the exact steps to follow so as to avoid getting in trouble with Google and other search engines.
I am worried that will it effect my page ranking?.. will it get removed from the listing for few days? ... will it not show the cached data?

i mean please if any one can help me to know what all problem i have to face when i move the server....and if possible please provide some solutions to me so that i donot loose my job..

I hope u guys better understand my situation...

Thaanks

 

treeline




msg:763800
 7:33 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is pretty straightforward. Just do it so Google always finds what it's looking for, and there won't be any confusion.

1. Keep the old server running.

2. Copy ALL content onto the new server. Test that it works. Retest. You may need to use the DNS codes, as web address won't be working yet for new server. That is, test at 123.123.456.456/index.html (the example NEW server DNS) as www.widgets.com/index.html is still pointed at the old server.

3. Keep the old server running.

4. Tell your domain name registrar to change the sites DNS codes from OLD to NEW. (pointed to the new server)

5. Keep the old server running.

6. Test that the new server is working well. Over the next 1-3 days visitors will be directed to the new server, but some will still be sent to the old server. We want Googlebot to get the content one place OR the other, so:

7. Keep the old server running.

8. After a week, if all works well on the new server, and you've confirmed that when you type in your www address it resolves to the new server for certain, then you can let the old server die.

Why did we keep both servers running for a while:

A) For several days, certain visitors could be sent to either server, so this makes sure they see your site.

B) Sometimes there is an unexpected disaster at the new server. Now you can just change the DNS back to the old, and it will work.

Good Luck!

BigDave




msg:763801
 10:02 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google doesn't seem to have trouble changing DNS anymore, but it is still a good idea to keep the old server running until Googlebot has found the new site and stops visiting the old site.

SEOtop10




msg:763802
 3:03 am on Jul 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree with you BigDave. Earlier Google used to cache the IP and would visit the old site location for several days before updating itself.

Now it checks the DNS everytime before deciding where to go. I have seen the Gbot landing up on the new server immediately after DNS update.

VikramLashkari




msg:763803
 10:38 am on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi,
Thats good information, Now my problem is to get the Zone File Record for my domain.

If anyone can tell me how to get Zone File Data from the www.totalregistrations.com registrar.

Please i had already talk with the old hosting company and they said that as the total control is with REgistrar,so only place we can get the zone file is them only.

Please help me out

thanks

tantalus




msg:763804
 11:08 am on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Vik

You just need to point the domain to the new nameservers for the new host, once the site is uploaded and tested.

Your new host will give you the nameservers address and you just change this via your account with the domain registrar

"User friendly domain management facilities"

Or failing that ask them to do it. (DNS = "Domain Name Server")

[edited by: tantalus at 11:16 am (utc) on July 11, 2005]

VikramLashkari




msg:763805
 11:15 am on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi tan...,
Thanks for your guidance. I am aware of changing the Nameserver's at the Registrar, but i am not getting any handle for adding subdomains or changing MX record or change TTL values.

So please if you know where can i found this information. will it be handle by the control panel at registrar's site or control panel of hosting company.

As Hosting company had already told me to talk with the registrar for this Zone File things.

So please if you can confirm me that this information can be changed from the Registrar then i will insist the registrar to provide handle for this things

Thanks

tantalus




msg:763806
 11:20 am on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

My experience has been that MX records are handled at the host, if they give you access.

But that is just my experience.

VikramLashkari




msg:763807
 11:52 am on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

oh tan,
So there is no way i can get Zone file record. AS my Hosting company had clearly told me no. They have said that they donot have any control on MX Records or any other record related to Zone File.

So please if you can tell me how should i tackle this problem

Thanks

PhotoStory




msg:763808
 12:51 pm on Jul 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I pretty much followed Treeline's suggestion on a PR5 site. The site transferred with no problems and ranking didn't change. Visitors were completely unaware.

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