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Google Introduced Personalised Search to Serps
Users of My Search History now see personalised search results
ppeter




msg:733296
 1:05 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Looks like Google is now personalising main search results and not just through its personalised web search, currently in Labs ( [labs.google.com...] ).

Phil.

[edited by: ciml at 7:34 pm (utc) on June 28, 2005]
[edit reason] URL fixed. [/edit]

 

whoisgregg




msg:733297
 7:26 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

[google.com...]

homegirl




msg:733298
 10:44 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Isn't this similar (re: search history) to what A9 is trying to do? (Except with the power/greater number of users of Google)

Kubano




msg:733299
 12:16 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)


If google starts using this information for personalized search results, we can say:

SEO is getting in the dark side... how to optimize if the results will be always different from user to user?

BillyS




msg:733300
 12:56 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's interesting and insightful to webmasters too. For example, you can see the association Google makes with your website.

inbound




msg:733301
 1:56 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Speculation Alert...

All of the search engines seem to be developing semantics based search technology, in other words trying to work out automatically what relevance words have to each other in any given context.

I'd say that the 'personalisation' here is merely an attempt to quality check an algorithm that Google are working on. The amount of data they can collect from this is huge, as is the processing required to find the relationships between words.

I would not be surprised if this trial does not see a full release, but I'd be equally surprised if it's not the basis for an improved search which is capable of interpreting the meaning of a search and matching documents to it.

cbpayne




msg:733302
 2:06 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google introduced this a year ago. There were discussions on it then....even the copyright notice on the FAQ's says 2004

Brett_Tabke




msg:733303
 3:23 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

[webmasterworld.com...]

Clark




msg:733304
 5:02 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

I noticed this the other day in a search.

JeremyL




msg:733305
 6:51 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

how to optimize if the results will be always different from user to user?

You will have to design and write for people instead of the engines.

kamran mohammed




msg:733306
 7:24 am on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

So now where will be then SEO market Goes.

So this is nothing but an END to Natural Ranking on SERP's ..

So what will be the new KICK from Google...

White Eagle

kartiksh




msg:733307
 8:40 am on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Agree with inbound.
IMO
Itís an attempt to learn relevancy of keywords by user preferences to implement in search algorithm.

shafaki




msg:733308
 9:10 pm on Jul 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

At first glance, this seems to put SEO in the dark. But on a second thought, it will just push SEO to the next level and a smarter breed of SEO will arrise.

If search had SEO, then personalized search will simply have personalized SEO :)

SEO has been 'easy' (compared to the coming breed of SEO). Sure SEO will figure a way to optimize even for personalized search. It will just take time, till they get to know more and more about ways of doing it. The good news is that personalized search will take place in a graceful way, and not abruptly, so the transition would be smoother on SEO anyway.

An initial purely guesswork from me (not to have any practical use but just to point the mind in the direction where it can think on what personalized SEO might look like) SEO can optimize for specific types of people, according to their interests or 'profile'. For instance, there could be the profile of the computer science college student, the profile of a single working mother living in New York, ... etc. SEO can optimize for profiles, perhaps they will not coinside prefectly with Google's personalized search, but at least they might help a bit. As the process goes further, SEO can find new ways of doing this. This will make SEO more difficult, but perhaps more rewarding, for now you can attract the right type of peopel to your web site! How exciting! Being able to more influence the type of traffic, and not just the number.

Let's grasp the opertunity and see what this slowly brings. It's very interesting. I love challenges brought about by new things.

Red_Eagle




msg:733309
 8:35 pm on Jul 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

This seems kind of wierd to me. How are personal music preferances going to affect results if someone searches "steaks"? I can see how it would apply to "music", as a general term, but these are only limited situations.

Just by looking at the personalized web search profile it seems almost irrelavent. For example, under recreation, one interest is "pets." What about it? Maybe it could be horses. If its horses, is it training them or riding them? Or maybe its horse race betting.

In summery, to truely be personal the catagories need to be a lot more specific. Many subcatagories may even share hierarchical catagories.

But I'm sure Google is working on this.

suidas




msg:733310
 9:01 pm on Jul 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm sorry, but WHAT is the evidence that they are now doing this "in the main SERPs"?

This thread seems like a "bump" to me. It might be useful to discuss what might (or might not) come from this, but it's hardly worthy of being spotlighted on the WebmasterWorld homepage.

ppeter




msg:733311
 8:35 am on Jul 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Suidas,

I spotted this in the main results and even posted a screenshot but it was deleted by the moderators in my initial post.

The basics are that when you search you get a small yellow box at the top of results reading "New! Google now personalizes search results for My Search History users. Learn more."

There is also a small piece of text (a link) above "1-10 of about.." which reads "Turn off Personalized Search for these results >>".

There is a similar thread on WebProWorld which has a link to the screenshot.

Phil

Skylo




msg:733312
 8:22 am on Jul 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thing is, i have never gone to the personalised preference page at google. Never told them what i like and what i am interested in.
Slowly but surely my main competitors and my site have started being more closely grouped together in results pages. This all comes down to my competitor analysis, seeing what pages they have in the serps compared to mine. Just the mere fact i was clicking through to them was being recorded in my search history and therefore google seems to be bumping all my clicked on links up the rankings purely because i searched and clicked.

For some keywords i rank in the top 5, click the turn off personalised search in the top right of the search results and my pages are back on the 2nd or 3rd page. One should have the option to turn off personalised search by default for all searches but still be able to access ones search history.

Quite frankly, i do not like google assuming that i want personalised results. What this means as well is that a user of personalised google is only likely to ever see the pages that rank in the top 2 pages. If the user is performaing searches and only ever clicking on certain sites or pages in the top 30, what is the likelyhood of the small site ever getting to the top of results.

I am sure that the desktop search results go a long way to "tailoring" serps by giving google even more user data to toy with. I do not like it, they should make it more clear to the user that they are tailoring results. I did not even notice till the other day when i saw highly competitive results that i never ranked well for previously and then all of a sudde i have broken into the top 5.

Petrocelli




msg:733313
 12:22 pm on Jul 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

How come that I always read "Google Introduced Penalized Search to Serps" ...

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