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Google Update Bourbon - Part 1
Has the sandbox been busted?
Dayo_UK




msg:767441
 8:35 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]


Seeing something happening on 64.233.163.104 and 64.233.167.104 - might be worth keeping an eye on.

 

sierra11b




msg:767591
 4:36 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well that's good to know. Certainly nothing to lose sleep over. It's just that you see your PR drop and want a reason why.

Truth be told it's back to PR3 for the time being.

kartiksh




msg:767592
 5:01 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

quick summery of what is see

Sites are back to their original PR which was there before recent PR updates.

.org domain is now coming above our site result for our company name.

testy




msg:767593
 5:34 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

My dreams shortlived

The datacenters reverted back?
****** [64.233.167.104...] **********

:-(

McMohan




msg:767594
 6:09 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

64.233.161.104
216.239.39.104
64.233.179.104

Kithens for the incremental changes seen last week.

64.233.163.104
64.233.167.104

Kithens where the current major updates are being cooked, which IMHO will be served finally to the guests, with some toppings and dressings.

madmatt69




msg:767595
 6:21 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was just at google news and it showed a PR 0. Definitely some weird stuff happening with the toolbar.

spaceylacie




msg:767596
 6:22 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

##$^^^#$^

Errr.... back to #14 position, even at Google.com.

Someone said wait til Monday, then someone said wait til Tuesday. This is confusing my stats, what's up?

skunker




msg:767597
 6:22 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

What the heck you talking about McMohan?

Anyways, yes the results are back to previous results! I am no longer seeing the same results I saw yesterday. Bummer!

It was shortlived....

spaceylacie




msg:767598
 6:26 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Short lived @$^^%*#^^*(&(

This ain't funny, what's up Google? Whatcha up to these days? I have a few well selected words to share...

lrgiblet




msg:767599
 6:28 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was just at google news and it showed a PR 0. Definitely some weird stuff happening with the toolbar.

Yeah. Amazon.com is showing a PR0 for me, too.

blend27




msg:767600
 6:34 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Whos Birthday is it?

caveman




msg:767601
 7:04 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reminds me of the old days. Lotta stuff not working right, or at least not as before. Settle in for the weekend, I guess. Watch the games...

G directory sub's showing no PR from where I look. Amazon too, but Amazon seems to have just changed their nav structure also, unless it's 'cause I'm deleting cookies constantly today and there's a plain vanilla version I've not seen in a while.

Other oddities too. Some of the local stuff is really wacky.

Plus, like the old updates, it seems to be iterating. So what I saw earlier (before dinner, on the dc's where the action is) is not what I'm seeing now.

Remember when they used to say, "too early to draw conclusions"? Well...er, seems like we really do have something akin to an old fashioned update on our hands here.

chopin2256




msg:767602
 7:09 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Am I the only one that seems to have taken a beating with this update? I am back in the sandbox after doing well for about 3 months :(

I dont rank well for ANY of my keywords or keyword combinations anymore. I don't even rank for my name when I was number 1! My main keyword, I am ranked 800!

[edited by: chopin2256 at 7:16 am (utc) on May 21, 2005]

Essex_boy




msg:767603
 7:14 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

One of my sites seems to have snuffed it in this update, sit it out me thinks and see what happens.

caveman




msg:767604
 7:17 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Am I the only one that seems to have taken a beating with this update?

It's good to remember during updates that for every move up there's a move down. So the answer to your question is, 'no' you're not the only one.

Unless of course, you moved down 40 spots, and 39 other sites each moved up one spot. ;-)

chopin2256




msg:767605
 7:26 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Unless of course, you moved down 40 spots

I moved more than 40 spots. I am nowhere to be found for anything. I am still in the google index, but im back in the sandbox it seems. I ranked well for 3 months, I have a few Dmoz listings, and many good backlinks. All my work has gone to waste. I was ranking beautifully for 3 months after I thought I got out of the sandbox...kind of confused now why Google thinks I should be put back in the box after proving my status?

MLHmptn




msg:767606
 7:40 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

My sites took serious jumps with this pending update (if it updates that is). But to any extent I still say the HE! with Google! 3 months from now my sites won't be found nowhere! I will continue supporting MSN and Yahoo! No sense in beating my head against Google's door if all it wants to do all the time is tickle my fancy!

Enjoy the update PRO Googlers for it won't last!

[edited by: MLHmptn at 7:41 am (utc) on May 21, 2005]

martinibuster




msg:767607
 7:41 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey Choppy,
That's unsettling, but at least you're not banned and it's still very early in the game as Tigrou and caveman have noted. It's part of the game.

I'm seeing an odd result in position number two for a pet phrase. Pages from a client's site in position 1 and 2, but #2 has no content. It only has a few inbound links.

Positions three and four are there through brute force internal anchors (completely irrelevant blog). This blog page has hovered in the bottom for awhile, but this is the first time I've seen two pages from the blog in the serps. Interesting...

This may change by Monday. It's just interesting to see the colors change.

[edited by: martinibuster at 7:45 am (utc) on May 21, 2005]

tigger




msg:767608
 7:44 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

>One of my sites seems to have snuffed it in this update, sit it out me thinks and see what happens.

Exactly Essex Boy, walk away from the serps and return Monday/Tuesday then everything should have settled down rather than worrying over dropped rankings now, its pointless

mm1220




msg:767609
 7:48 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Through all these major updates people are looking at money keywords and noticing dramatic changes in positioning. I've got a site that shows up well in google for a non-money keyword (a one word science term). In watching the SERPs for this term I see only gradual shifting of positions.

My site for example has never jumped hugely but over the last two years has gained 1 or 2 places each update with other sites performing similarly (some obviously moving downward).
From what I can see it's basically newer (well relatively newer) sites who are still updating content and as a result gaining new links that are slowly but surely overtaking established cobweb sites who currently have all the links and content they'll ever have.

They had such a monumental lead in terms of PR and backlinks a few years back that it seemed hopeless to try to overhaul them then. So the conclusion which I draw from all this Google indexing business is that patience is the name of the game.

Dayo_UK




msg:767610
 7:51 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Things are really up in the air at the moment.

The good results for me on 64.233.163.104 & 64.233.167.104 have gone - and other datacenters have got a lot worse from my point of view.

Dont know which way this is going to swing.

McMohan




msg:767611
 8:04 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

The good results for me on 64.233.163.104 & 64.233.167.104 have gone

For me the ranks are same as when this update started, atleast till now.

steveb




msg:767612
 8:05 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I actually did a double take when I saw on 64.233.167.104 my previously hijacked site return to #12 for a term it had been between #1 and #15 for years. It also went to #2 for its site name (which is two words that are somewhat common so #2 is reasonable); and it reappeared at #664 for its key money term, that it had been ranking #21 for before the hijacking.

On the other hand, one site went further into the sandbox, like 130 to 220 for its site name.

No conclusions to draw yet, but still not too much going on in my neck of the woods.

Dayo_UK




msg:767613
 8:07 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Steveb

Is that DC holding steady for you - or was that the results from earlier?

Beachboy




msg:767614
 8:17 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've seen a lot of wacky stuff happen to my sites over the years with Google Dances, sites suddenly rank very high, then drop way down, then vanish, then return. It's enough to make you pop antacid tablets.

Insofar as the toolbar PR indicator is concerned...I seem to recall people saying that the new Google toolbar doesn't have a PR indicator.... I wonder if Google is disabling PR with this update for those of us who still have toolbars that have the PR feature.

steveb




msg:767615
 8:18 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Earlier the page had been about 40 instead of 12 where it is now (or 80 where it was before the start of this update). So, yes, 64.233.167.104 changed for this result, but only for the ex-hijacked site (so far as I can tell). The basic results look similar to earlier today.

nutsandbolts




msg:767616
 8:24 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, 64.233.167.104 has flicked back but it will return... I am sure of it. I hope. Please. :D

needinfo




msg:767617
 8:41 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

We had relatively small changes on 64.233.167.104 but it seems to have stayed on there for us yet all of you guys are saying it has reverted back, Not so for us!

MikeNoLastName




msg:767618
 8:41 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Everything seems to be in flux at the moment. At first I thought we were out of the index, altogether, but we just dropped from 2 to 96. This has happened many-a-time before. At least they did it on one of our slowest weekends of the year... by plan I'm sure. Googlebot has been re-visiting our new and old pages like crazy all day. By Monday, I'm confident the dust will have cleared and everything will be pretty much back to normal, minus whoever it was they were after in this update. Go out, have a enjoyable weekend, and check in on Monday.

Cheers!

[edited by: MikeNoLastName at 8:43 am (utc) on May 21, 2005]

hdpt00




msg:767619
 8:42 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep. I'm gone as well. Back into the sandbox.

taps




msg:767620
 8:50 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is a very good morning. Good results spread from a few DCs yesterday to most of the DCs today.

We have a site with about 3.000 pages of unique, clean content. On day before Allegra I changed all URLs to lowercase letters. Nice coincidence :-(

Allegra slammed us to the floor. I did a lot of cleanup work, setting 301s, trying everything to avoid duplicate content.

Now it seems we are back at about 70% of pre allegra. I hope it will go on like this the next days.

Thanks to anyone here at WW for all the help in the last weeks.

Dominic_X




msg:767621
 8:52 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have any insight into what the change may be based on, or are we just going to hear 'I'm up 40 places / I'm down 25 places' for another 500 posts? If so this thread isn't worth following.

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