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PageRank on example.com and www.example.com
http://www. vs http://
mmmwowmmm




msg:727901
 1:20 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello,
I have bought a link on a PR 5 website. I just noticed that if you go to [example.com...] it is a PR 5, but if you go to [example.com...] it is only a PR 1. I thought those were the same page, how could this be?

 

benevolent001




msg:727902
 1:23 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

google takes them as different urls and hence difference PR

mmmwowmmm




msg:727903
 3:50 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Aren't the two pages exactly the same? Is it because some of your incoming links point to one url and some the other? If that is the case, it seems like a huge oversite on Googles part to give such much importance to a meaningless technicality.

As a webmaster is there any way to control this?

benevolent001




msg:727904
 4:11 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

u can do reditect for non www site to www.site to avoid this

joeduck




msg:727905
 4:15 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

does anybody know the line needed in the .htaccess file to do the redirection of http:// to [www...] for all the files in the site?

mmm - ask your ISP if they can fix this at the root server level which is better than using .htaccess, which is a file used by Apache to handle redirection.

mmmwowmmm




msg:727906
 4:20 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ok, but is the a difference of PR because some IBL's point to one Url and some the other? When aquiring IBL's, is it better to try to have all of them pointing to just one of the Url's?

joeduck




msg:727907
 4:33 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

mmm -

Most people at WebmasterWorld seem to think it's best to choose ONE or the other (WWW or non WWW) and point all your links to that and redirect server to that single one. I've had great luck and PR for years with a site that does NOT do that but recently saw a traffic drop so I'm changing to "all WWW" format as a hopeful fix.

Based on the info I've seen and my own sites I think Google usually considers www and non www the "same page", but if there are many links to each they go ahead and assign different PR.

dylans




msg:727908
 4:50 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

we were just discussing this (not this point exactly, but pretty darn close) over at this thread. check it out: [webmasterworld.com...]

Jim Westergren




msg:727909
 4:56 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

These are the lines in the .htacess:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ [domain.com...] [R=permanent,L]

I use them myself and it works good.

joeduck




msg:727910
 12:55 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks Jim! - I also just got this suggestion in the Apache Forum. I'll try them both and whichever works is the right answer!

# Force www canonical hostname
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^example\.com
rewriterule (.*) [example.com...] [R=301,L]
#
# Rewrite all requests to www subdirectory, but prevent rewrite looping
RewriteCond $1!^www/
rewriterule (.*) /www/$1 [L]
#
# Forbid direct-request access to /www subfolder
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^[A-Z]+\ /www/
rewriterule .* - [F]

joeduck




msg:727911
 1:02 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Shucks, neither of the new .htaccess forces the http:// to [www...]

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