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Google dropped my site - too many outbound links?
Links to my users' blogs
ebloggy

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Msg#: 29475 posted 10:52 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I run a blog site that allow users to create their own blogs.

Recently, I added an Alpha Index, linked to by my front page. This Index contained all the blogs in my site.

Because my users' blog addressess are [*.example.com,...] where * is their usernames, I believe that Google may be penalizing me for a sudden surge of outbound links.

As such, my rankings have dropped from #1-#2 for a couple of terms to page 10-15 of the SERPs.

However, a search for www.example.com/alpha.php shows no results (i.e. Google seems not to have indexed my Alpha Index).

If I have indeed been penalized, is there any way I can remove the penalization?

[edited by: ciml at 12:53 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]
[edit reason] Examplified [/edit]

 

hunderdown

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Msg#: 29475 posted 1:58 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've never heard of anyone being penalized for outbound links--will be interested to hear if this really could be the cause.

hutcheson

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Msg#: 29475 posted 2:11 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

My wild guess is that you just exported your PR.

hunderdown

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Msg#: 29475 posted 5:13 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

My wild guess is that you just exported your PR.

But if that's true, then why don't all directory sites have PRs of 0?

tedster

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Msg#: 29475 posted 7:30 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Directory sites don't usually have a subdomain for each category - but in this example, all the links go to a different subdomain. I'd say exporting all the PR is a very real possibility here.

ebloggy

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Msg#: 29475 posted 6:43 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

That may be true.

Assuming that I remove the subdomains and modify all links to www.example.com/blog.php?username=username.

Am I still going to get a PR drain? My main intention for the Alpha Index was to get blogs indexed, but apparently it seems I can't do that without adversely affecting my site.

By the way, Google is still freshly scanning my site each day, so it may indeed not be a penalization after all.

On top of that, I have moved to page 14 (from page 15 previously) for the term 'free blog'.

However, if you were to search allinanchor: free blog [google.com.sg], I notice my site at a very high position on the 1st page. While I understand that allinanchor positions do not accurately represent the SERPs, but the allinanchor page [google.com.sg] does accurately represent the SERP for the term 'free blog' just before my site was dropped.

Moreover, my site is still having a pagerank of 6. Unless, of course, Google is not updating its PageRank in the toolbar.

Finally, I have heard that PageRank does not adversely affect the SERPs (at least not to a large extent). For such a large drop (page 1 to page 15), do you think it is still a PR drain, or do you think it points to a penalization?

221b

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 29475 posted 7:19 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

check better
[webmasterworld.com...]

glengara

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Msg#: 29475 posted 9:33 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

*do you think it is still a PR drain*

To be honest, I can't see a correlation between the two.

My guess is, if you have any other potential links schemes in play, this Alpha index may have tipped your linkage pattern into disrepute.

Using sub-domains may have it seen as an artificial attempt to Big-up the site.

221b

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 29475 posted 10:09 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Using sub-domains may have it seen as an artificial attempt to Big-up the site"
I completely disagree .I have a competitor in my industry right on my tail ,he uses for every "widget" a subdomain ie
blue.widgets ...green.widgets and so on
well he's at tops,sometimes after me or sometimes one step behind me.

ebloggy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 29475 posted 5:14 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, removed my Alpha Index, and still no changes for the past few days.

Either I have been penalized, or perhaps I'm in the sandbox for adding too many links.

Anyhow, Google refuses to reply to my email.

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