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Google SERP position checker
Any that go beyond 1000?
TheRookie

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Msg#: 28981 posted 12:29 am on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, it's a nice day for me. My first site, after being crawled a few times by Googlebot the past week, is finally IN the engine!

However, after checking on an engine, I'm not in the top 1000 for my keyword (I'm not surprised). However, does anyone know of position checkers that go beyond 1000? Heh, I know no one will be clicking me there, but I'm just excited/curious.

Thanks! :-)

 

diamondgrl

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Msg#: 28981 posted 1:31 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, since Google doesn't list more than 1000, how do you expect some tool to help you see more listings?

The real simon

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Msg#: 28981 posted 2:48 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google lists more than 1000

I do not think it is well accepted practice and that google tries to avoid the use of this kind of software. But at it is quite easy to code, you should be able to find one.
Good luck finding it!

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 28981 posted 3:23 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

> Google lists more than 1000

No it doesn't. Try any result, then try to look at site #1001.

Google does not provide results beyond 1000, even if you use &filter=0

For instance, I did a Google search for "the" (3,160,000,000 results), then manually changed the "&start=10" string to 1010, and got this message:

Sorry, Google does not serve more than 1000 results for any query. (You asked for results starting from 1010.)

The real simon

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Msg#: 28981 posted 3:40 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks a lot for rectifying! :)

BillyS

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Msg#: 28981 posted 6:45 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google lists more than 1000
I do not think it is well accepted practice and that google tries to avoid the use of this kind of software. But at it is quite easy to code, you should be able to find one.

Perhaps one of the most interesting posts I've read here to date. Not only did it contain the wrong information, but it also sends the reader on a wild goose chase!

TheRookie

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Msg#: 28981 posted 8:26 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Heh, I guess that's why I couldn't find one.

Thanks for the info!

bakedjake

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Msg#: 28981 posted 8:39 pm on Apr 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Even though there are ways to get around the 1000 limit, I don't think a position checker that checked beyond 1000 would be very useful.

The real simon

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Msg#: 28981 posted 11:16 am on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Perhaps one of the most interesting posts I've read here to date. Not only did it contain the wrong information, but it also sends the reader on a wild goose chase!

Hey that's fine! ok I should not have participated as my message was wrong but it's not such a big deal as PatrickDeese (and I thank him again) gave the right info 30 mins after. And I apologized, what could I do more?
At least I and some other people perhaps learned something.

Better always try to participate, that's perhaps the best way to get some knowledge. Ok lurking is perhaps better than wrong information but still ;)

Sorry again...

BillyS

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Msg#: 28981 posted 2:42 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey that's fine! ok I should not have participated as my message was wrong but it's not such a big deal as PatrickDeese (and I thank him again) gave the right info 30 mins after. And I apologized, what could I do more?

If I knew all the answers I wouldn't be here. Sorry about my post, it didn't add to the quality of the forum.

BennyBlanco

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Msg#: 28981 posted 3:02 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I hate to be the one to bring this up, but beyond the fact that G doesnt show results past 1k, why would you even want to track any rankings past page 100? Do you believe that any web searcher would actually dig that deep into the SERPs to find a page? I know I would jump over to Yahoo or MSN after page 10 at the latest.

DerekH

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Msg#: 28981 posted 4:03 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate for the moment, one might very well wonder, in a SERPS with 2 million results, just *how* well one is doing, even if one isn't visible (yet) to Joe Public doing his searches.

Of course, we all know that the further away from front page one becomes, the more erratic and random the results seem to be anyway, but even if the original question can't be answered, I do see that it's very valid, especially if posed in a slightly different way...
"How can I tell how my site is doing after I last optimised it, when it's not in the top 0.05% of results"....

Just my two penn'orth!
DerekH

TheRookie

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Msg#: 28981 posted 7:00 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I hate to be the one to bring this up, but beyond the fact that G doesnt show results past 1k, why would you even want to track any rankings past page 100? Do you believe that any web searcher would actually dig that deep into the SERPs to find a page? I know I would jump over to Yahoo or MSN after page 10 at the latest.

As I said in my original post, it's my first site, and it's the first time it showed up in Google. Out of curiousity, I thought it'd be neat to see where I was, since the whole thing is pretty exciting.

Never did I think someone would be looking in the 2523th result for my keyword, but I sure would love to see my site on there!

victor

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Msg#: 28981 posted 7:13 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

How to get Beyond the 1000:

Take a look at the Google Advanced search page.

Do a set of searches with different advanced settings -- language, domain, filtering, size, date etc. But the same keywords.

Splice the results together.

Easiest done with a bit of script and the SOAP API.

Results are only indicative -- you may have 2599 different pages, but they may not be the "top" 2599 pages, and some of the ordering will be indeterminate -- especially as the results will come from different data centers.

Drew

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Msg#: 28981 posted 5:58 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do a set of searches with different advanced settings -- language, domain, filtering, size, date etc. But the same keywords. Splice the results together.
__________________________________________

I don't think that will work for site:domain.com

If I do a search for site:microsoft.com it comes back with
Results 901 - 929 of about 12,800,000 from microsoft.com

There is still no way to filter these results to give you a full picture of what Google has indexed.

So if you have more than 1,000 pages you will not be able to see how your pages are indexed and/or what text is displayed by Google.

As far as using SOAP, I am researching Google Web APIs and noticed the fillowing:
Your key will have a limit on the number of requests a day that you can make. The default limit is 1000 queries per day. If you have
problems with your key or getting the correct the daily quota of queries, plase contact <api-support@google.com>.

trillianjedi

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Msg#: 28981 posted 6:49 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, it's a nice day for me. My first site, after being crawled a few times by Googlebot the past week, is finally IN the engine!

Well first off, congratulations on getting your first site off the ground and welcome to the club.

However, after checking on an engine, I'm not in the top 1000 for my keyword (I'm not surprised). However, does anyone know of position checkers that go beyond 1000?

BakedJake answered this one succinctly enough.

The best advice is to forget about the search engines for a little while. It takes time (more now than ever).

Read through Bretts standard issue SEO 12 months to success guide, and make sure you have all of your on-page factors in place (they'll help you more in Y! and MSN at the moment).

Then head over to the Link Development forum and start reading. You need to concentrate on getting some inbound links. As long as you've got some good content on your site, you'll pick a few up. Concentrate on your anchor text.

Watch your logfiles - that's the best guide you can have for how you're doing in the SE's - you'll see referrals coming in for search terms you haven't even considered yet, let alone are targetting.

Build build and build some more. See those logfile referrals? See an interesting search that someone came in on and you know something about? Write a page about it.

Rinse and repeat.

Heh, I know no one will be clicking me there, but I'm just excited/curious.

Good for you. And you know what the best thing is? You've got your site up and running and you've come to the right place to get it perfected.

Let's see if WW can get you up to #1 along with countless other sites that it's had a hand in.

TJ

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