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New Google Answering Facts
Queries return answer at top of page.
trimmer80




msg:722302
 12:32 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

search for: "australia population"

this will return the answer at the top of the page.

also

"who is the pope"

Soon enough google wont need publishers, they will just answer everything themself.

 

vitaplease




msg:722303
 6:23 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)


Google today began delivering factual answers for some queries at the top of its results page to save users from having to navigate over to other sites and look for the information.

[pcworld.com...]

Google feeds this service with information from Web sites it considers reliable, but it hasn't established formal relationships with any content provider whose information is being used for this feature, Norvig says. Google doesn't expect that the owners of the Web sites will complain over the possibility that this new service will steal traffic away from them, Norvig says. On the contrary, being featured at the top of Google's results list will give these Web sites great exposure, and will likely result in increased traffic, he says.

also: [google.com...]

zgb999




msg:722304
 9:28 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not seeing it over here.

shri




msg:722305
 9:34 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Cool feature, bizzare justification.

Type population of countryname and you'll see a reference to the CIA factbook. (again a poor choice of sources)

gstewart




msg:722306
 10:11 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

type in "who is the prime minister of britain" and the answer at the top is Margaret Thatcher!

Wlauzon




msg:722307
 1:41 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

you'll see a reference to the CIA factbook. (again a poor choice of sources)

Why is it a poor choice?

Atticus




msg:722308
 8:21 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Why is it a poor choice?"

Curveball.

Marc_P




msg:722309
 8:30 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

the CIA factbook. (again a poor choice of sources)

lmao

Dayo_UK




msg:722310
 8:40 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>type in "who is the prime minister of britain" and the answer at the top is Margaret Thatcher!

Also type in

Quest: who is tony blair

Answer: studied law at Oxford and practiced law until 1983, when he was elected as member of Parliament from

and

Quest: where is iraq

Answer Middle East, bordering the Persian Gulf, between Iran and Kuwait

How much of Iraqis between Iran and Kuwait.

Oh well a lot of homework marked wrong over the next few days :)

Is this in response to MSN using Encarta?

OK - I am sure that people can pick relevant results to answer too :)

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 8:41 pm (utc) on April 8, 2005]

HughMungus




msg:722311
 8:40 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow, another copyright-infringing "feature".

Dayo_UK




msg:722312
 8:44 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Actually if you use MSN for the above mentioned searches it is much better.

Not the best debut - but lets see how it develops.

Clark




msg:722313
 9:02 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Prediction: A foreshadowing of future events. Example: I predict Google Facts will cease to exist by this time next year.

crobb305




msg:722314
 9:05 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you type in the name of my site, you get a 302 at the top of the serps.
LOL

Dayo_UK




msg:722315
 9:10 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lol - Me too.

Have you thought about my suggestion or given up hope?

CygnusX1




msg:722316
 9:10 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do like the answers google is giving. It saves me time.

Webwork




msg:722317
 9:10 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

"What are windows"

Web definitions for Windows: A window is a graphic, usually rectangular in shape, containing either some kind of graphical interface, or a textual representation, of the output of and allowing input for one of a number of simultaneously running computer processes.

Google swallowed the red pill.

howiejs




msg:722318
 9:11 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is this coming from answers.com?

Dayo_UK




msg:722319
 9:14 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Webwork - I think that is coming from definitions.

Answers seem to be a bit different.

texaskev




msg:722320
 9:36 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

>Wow, another copyright-infringing "feature". <

yeah, how do they get away with that? I see a copyright photo that I took on Google Images. They just lifted it from my site! lol

crobb305




msg:722321
 9:40 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Bugs in this feature. How many school children will be getting incorrect answers now? LOL

Google needs to complete one task, fix bugs, before creating another mess.

C

twist




msg:722322
 9:52 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

My site is regional and I spend a lot of time and money keeping accurate records of all sorts of local data. Why should google get to print my data for free. What if I use impression ads and people just stop coming because all the search engines have pulled all the relevant data from my pages and shows it already in the search result.

Now if google wanted to pony up 10+ cents everytime they get the privilage to use my data I might agree to that, but their just going to take it?

<snip>

[edited by: lawman at 11:53 am (utc) on April 9, 2005]
[edit reason] TOS 26 [/edit]

DerekH




msg:722323
 9:55 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

gstewart wrote
type in "who is the prime minister of britain" and the answer at the top is Margaret Thatcher!

I love this - *I* type it in and it's John Major...

It doesn't tell you the answer, it tells you your innermost fears...

This is altogether much more eerie!
DerekH

Robert Charlton




msg:722324
 10:06 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think it's a great feature... and, after trying a bunch of searches, I feel that these results are bringing sites to the top that wouldn't otherwise be there.

That said, I don't have results prior to the introduction of the feature to compare, but I'm guessing that the feature is more likely to generate traffic than to reduce it to the sites referenced.

As for some sites that may be losing traffic because the facts from other sites are at the top, that's no different than many other algo and display changes.

Robert Charlton




msg:722325
 10:17 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

PS to the above....

My site is regional and I spend a lot of time and money keeping accurate records of all sorts of local data.

twist - I'm sympathetic to this point of view, if the new Facts feature is displacing you for queries on which you would otherwise rank. I'm curious about whether this actually happens. On the searches I ran, I didn't see anything like this. The Facts sites returned weren't in the top 10 or whatever for the queries that brought them up. Probably, there will be some overlap, but I didn't see it, even on searches with "facts" in the query.

twist




msg:722326
 10:32 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Its not the results of today or tommorow that bother me it's the idea behind it. If this takes off for google then all the search engines will start using it and this will inevidently create a competition to return more and more information. Thats if their allowed to continue with the practice. Just because they can do it legally doesn't make it right.

For instance, what if in the future when someone types "town name" into the search, it pulls all the data from my site like; address, directions, local websites, parks, shopping, schools, areas of interest, brief history, zipcode and whatever else. What reason is left for people to come to my site?

I understand that this is all speculation and can be dismissed as nothing more than that, but if you think about it, what is stopping them from pulling more and more information from peoples website without their permission?

HughMungus




msg:722327
 10:41 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just because they can do it legally doesn't make it right.

What's interesting is that the information from Wikipedia is probably reprintable and the information from the CIA is, I think, reprintable (because it's from a government entity, anyone can reprint it). Anybody find information that's come from a copyrighted source?

For instance, what if in the future when someone types "town name" into the search, it pulls all the data from my site like; address, directions, local websites, parks, shopping, schools, areas of interest, brief history, zipcode and whatever else. What reason is left for people to come to my site?

Just like the example I've given of how you can get information out of Google snippets without ever visiting the web page of the site the snippet is from (for example, if you want a local restaurant's phone number, just type in the name and the area code and the number is almost guaranteed to be in the snippets -- no reason to visit the site it's on).

blend27




msg:722328
 11:26 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)


no disregard for Brett and trimmer80, but the topic should of went to FOO/Google

weeks




msg:722329
 1:10 am on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Question: Who is John Warner?

Well, the governor of state of Virginia and the senior U.S. Senator of the state of Virginia have the same name.

Google picked the Senator. Confusing, eh? But, heck, we're confused about it here all of the time, too.

I'm a Google fan, but this feature stinks.

Woz




msg:722330
 1:19 am on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Try a search for NBA, and then compare with define:NBA. One challenge is that there are no right answers, only applicable answers. The other challange is the violation of copyright where applicable.

There is also a great difference between providing snippets that contain the search terms, and parsing out related content to re-publish. Dangerous grounds on many levels IMO for all Search Engines that do this, not only Google.

Search Engines should point the way, not attempt to provide definitive answers.

Onya
Woz

createErrorMsg




msg:722331
 2:48 am on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now if google wanted to pony up 10+ cents everytime they get the privilage to use my data I might agree to that, but [they're] just going to take it?

Only if you let them index your site. Bounce away googlebot and you never have to worry about your information showing up on ANY Google search.

cEM

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