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Backlinks updated Today
Marval




msg:743570
 10:23 pm on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Noted a change in backlinks starting today - seems a small increase across sites I look at

 

TinkyWinky




msg:743660
 9:02 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

well this veers from being a right mess through to completely derisory.

I am actually doing reasonably well - some sites up, some sites down - so this is fairly objective I suppose.

I monitor about 40 key areas and in at least 20 of those (20 high competition areas) some of the results are laughable.

Redirects to sites no longer there, no site at all and worse still keyword stuffing worthy of Paxo.

I don't think this is anywhere near complete - looks like they are working their way through factors like on and off page factors as well as predictable backlinks, link farsm etc.,

so maybe this one BIG mama of an update across the Easter holidays when traffic will be low.

George Cooper




msg:743661
 9:20 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

My back links have dropped to zero. My site is about 3.5 months old, and had about 25 back links in google last week (many hundreds in Yahoo), but today back to zero, and rankings worse than ever. My site is still PR0 which is disconcerting also. Yahoo and MSN deliver more than 10x as much traffic as Google for me.

wruppert




msg:743662
 10:19 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

The Google Labs article about the MapReduce function (http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce-osdi04.pdf) describes a small detail of the indexing system reimplemented using this tool:

"The indexing process runs as a sequence of five to ten MapReduce operations. ... The performance of the MapReduce library is good enough that we can keep conceptually unrelated computations separate, instead of mixing them together to avoid extra passes over the data."

And I think I saw a reference somewhere else to as many as 24 passes. So there are a number of passes that refine the results over a period of days. This may be what we are seeing as the results jump around during an update. The output of the first few passes could look like a reversion to older data before more factors are applied.

goofy




msg:743663
 10:30 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

the new serps are on AOL and Netscape ,is final perhaps?

snowflake




msg:743664
 11:26 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

"And I think I saw a reference somewhere else to as many as 24 passes. So there are a number of passes that refine the results over a period of days. This may be what we are seeing as the results jump around during an update. The output of the first few passes could look like a reversion to older data before more factors are applied."

The thing is I have not seen any jumping around since this happened two days ago.

europeforvisitors




msg:743665
 11:46 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

The thing is I have not seen any jumping around since this happened two days ago.

For one of my primary keyphrases, my home page's rank has been at #10, #11, #17, and #23 over the last 48 hours or so; it's back up to #17 at the moment. Other pages have shown less "jumpiness" (or none, in a few cases).

That's anecdotal evidence, of course, but it's the little pieces that make up the puzzle. :-)

annej




msg:743666
 12:33 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

My back links have dropped to zero. My site is about 3.5 months old, and had about 25 back links in google last week

That and my experience makes me think we are getting a throwback from an earlier time. Seems like this happens sometimes in the process of readjusting but I doubt they will stay with it.

swoop




msg:743667
 12:36 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Big revenue drops (50%) on my hobby site yesterday and today :(

I hope it's just random noise, but doesn't look likely.

[edited by: engine at 8:21 am (utc) on Mar. 30, 2005]

Hanu




msg:743668
 12:37 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nice one wruppert!

Marval




msg:743669
 12:48 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

crobb - I still disagree as I am seeing backlinks that were just obtained within the last few weeks counted in this new dataset Im seeing. I would have agreed but since I keep pretty accurate track of quite a few sites backlinks counts and where the links are "shown" coming from (I realize that not everything is right in the link command and hasnt been for over a year) and this dataset doesnt match any link databases I have on file.

edd1




msg:743670
 1:07 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've noticed no change whatsoever on any of our sites backlinks or competitors backlinks. Some change in SERPS but nothing out of the ordinary. None of our pages are showing any PR change either. Where are you guys seeing all of these changes?

europeforvisitors




msg:743671
 2:09 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Where are you guys seeing these changes?

In my case, it's just by going to www.google.com. I assume the data center I'm seeing is 64.233.167.104, since that's what I get when I view cached pages.

diddlydazz




msg:743672
 2:21 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi efv


I assume the data center I'm seeing is 64.233.167.104, since that's what I get when I view cached pages

not always the case, try opening a command prompt and using nslookup google.com, it should give you your DCs IPs (up to 3)

we can't always trust the cached link :o)

edd1




msg:743673
 2:30 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for that, yes there are some changes to our backlinks there. I have a problem all of our sites are suddenly down and I assume its a problem with the hosting. I'm assuming this could be damaging right in the middle of an update?

europeforvisitors




msg:743674
 2:41 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

not always the case, try opening a command prompt and using nslookup google.com, it should give you your DCs IPs (up to 3)

I learn something new here every day! Thanks.

The numbers are:

216.239.39.99
216.239.57.99
216.239.37.99

diddlydazz




msg:743675
 2:49 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

efv


216.239.39.99
216.239.57.99
216.239.37.99

these are the most common DCs (seem to be used more than the others).

try this one: [66.102.7.99...]

shows different backlinks to 216.239.x.x for some of the sites i am watching.

Dazz

europeforvisitors




msg:743676
 4:13 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

diddlydazz:

[66.102.7.99...] is now showing 617 backlinks for my domain, compared to 1,310 on the more common data centers. I'm also seeing about 1,000 or 8% fewer pages in a site: search. Allinurl: numbers are almost the same (3100 vs. 3110).

Searches on various keywords and keyphrases show almost identical results, but there are occasional differences after I get past the top 10 or 20.

All in all, about the same, but not quite.

madmatt69




msg:743677
 4:33 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm getting the exact same results on that datacenter as the others, so far I don't notice a difference..But that could just be me.

reseller




msg:743678
 7:41 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

This morning everything looks very fresh and updated regarding link:www.mysite.dk and site:www.mysite.dk.

Also regained top positions on the serps for competitive keyphrases which allegra took from me.

Still awaiting the victorius return of the 70% of Google traffic which I lost in the latest cold "Black February".

One thing I have learned from allegra and shall keep telling my 3 children; NEVER trust a search engine :)

MHes




msg:743679
 9:33 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

edd1 >all of our sites are suddenly down and I assume its a problem with the hosting. I'm assuming this could be damaging right in the middle of an update?

Relax. Googlebot will have to pass a few times before you are damaged.

SEOPTI




msg:743680
 9:35 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Are new sites ranked?

I see my new sites which got indexed two days ago for the first time using site:, but they are not ranked in the SERPs.

MHes




msg:743681
 9:52 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi SEOPTI

Look at the cache of your pages. My guess is there will be no cache available. This will last a few days and then you will only find your site if you do specific chunks of your site in quotes or have a totally unique word/phrase. My new site is about 3 weeks old and at this stage. The next step is to keep getting good quality links in and hope for the best.

sifredi




msg:743682
 1:36 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see this as a major update. Many of my sites has dropped dramatically for some terms and a few are up for other terms. For me, this is a larger update than the allegra a month ago. Nearly all search terms has changed position in the serps, and so far I don't like it at all.

patoruzu




msg:743683
 2:20 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, it seems I have been fortunate. Every page up in the SERPS.

isnogood




msg:743684
 2:49 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

long live the bunny (easter bunny) update:)

MHes




msg:743685
 2:54 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

or perhaps 'bugs bunny' :)

MHes




msg:743686
 2:56 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is a major update. Our site has been rock solid for 3 years dominating a very competitive search sector and we have been knocked for the first time ever. Never before have I seen it move throughout an update, or come to that, never have I seen it move!

patoruzu




msg:743687
 3:10 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>or perhaps 'bugs bunny'<<

Is this so bad?

edd1




msg:743688
 3:18 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

MHes, Thanks for the reassurance, I think they were down for about half an hour in the end so hopefully no harm done. I hope your listings come good again. We've had a couple of knocks in the SERPS recently and although I can get a bit panicky at times, things just always seem to be ok in the long term and I've always reminded myself of that before trying to make quick fixes. Also, at times when we've dropped in major terms and hits have been down, income has often gone up!

cyberfyber




msg:743689
 3:39 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

MHes, I'd have to agree from my end as well. My biggest site has dominated and been rock steady for almost 4 years with only a minor nudge and shake whenever there's an update. HECK! I didn't even know what the FLA upset was all about 'till months after when I read about it....obviously didn't affect me.

BUT what's going on here has had me nervous since it began. I can only take solace in the memory of how many times in the past 'that light at the end of the tunnel' has been a good one. Hope that'll be the case here too! ;-)

Spine




msg:743690
 6:04 pm on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well said.

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