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Backlinks updated Today
Marval

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Msg#: 28722 posted 10:23 pm on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Noted a change in backlinks starting today - seems a small increase across sites I look at

 

crobb305

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Msg#: 28722 posted 8:56 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I can NOT believe this made the first page news of Webmasterworld! There is NOT a backlink update. As has been verified by several members in this thread, there have been at least two backlink datasets floating around for the past 12 weeks!

Ref msg 21 and 22 of this thread.

ReSiever

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 9:19 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

There's definately something going on. Looks to me they switched back to a point right after the Allegra update, but with a few minor adjustments in it..

A lot of shoppingsites listed in the top again on almost every term for a product worth reselling. A lot of subdomains, which causes 'hobby'-sites to gain high positions because they have the advantage of using the power of the main domain.

Next to that, the language function in Google doesn't seem to filter that good anymore. I get English, Spanish and other languages when searching only inside pages in one country.

I also see a lot of ups and dows in the number of SERPS comparing to the number a week ago. Especially since searching English terms in non-english pages doesn't seem to matter anymore, as Google will show English results.

This is not pure coffee, i'll tell you that.

Visit Thailand

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Msg#: 28722 posted 9:33 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Whether it is a backlins update or not. I have seen a lot of changes in the SERPS since yesterday afternoon.

MHes

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Msg#: 28722 posted 9:34 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

ReSiever

I agree. Something happened yesterday for us. Sites that were flying last year dropped over Christmas 50+ places, yesterday they came back. These sites are untouched.

Hope it lasts.

rj87uk

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Msg#: 28722 posted 10:00 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yesterday I jumped from second page 30m results to first page #3.

I was page 1 pre Allegra - Thats the only noticeable change ive saw.

End of month tweak maybe....

ct2000

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 10:36 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

my back links more than doubled since I looked about 3 or 4 days ago - Up from about 1,900 to 4,970 - not seing any PR shift yet - but my SERPS for my area look better than before December/Jan "update"

Marval

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 10:47 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

crobb305 - some of us are seeing a completely different set of backlinks than the two that have been floating out there for 12 weeks - with entirely new links in the dataset - so I would say that I only reported what I as well as others have seen at some very large sites. BTW - the IP locations of the datasets is floating so it's impossible to narrow it down to a particular datacenter, as well as the SERP changes that are starting to appear that do NOT appear to be standard fresh/flux changes.

taps

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 10:57 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

slipped down to #4 when searching for "mydomainname.ext". Still #1 for "mydomainname". Pretty weird. Don't like it so far for now. It's even worse than allegra.

esllou

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Msg#: 28722 posted 11:40 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

when I do a search link:mysite.com, G lists 100 other sites which I know is false. The true figure is more like 500. Some of those listed are PR 0 and 1 so it doesn't seem like the sub-PR4 threshold is at play either.

then when I do a -mysite.com mysite.com search, my site is mentioned on about 2000 pages and some of those are PR4 or 5 but which are not on the original link:mysite.com query I did.

what's going on?

bekyed

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 11:57 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I can see no changes at all, just the normal flux of websites going up and down as usual.

Bek

annej

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Msg#: 28722 posted 1:18 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lordy, a real spammy site that was gone for a couple of months is back in the top 5 in my topic. <sigh>

helleborine

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 2:27 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Results are better for my keywords, and I noticed a few PR-0 newcomers on pages 1 and 2.

willybfriendly

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Msg#: 28722 posted 3:08 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

An off the wall question. Could what we are seeing be an effort at dealing with the 302 problem?

WBF

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 4:07 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

A lot of subdomains, which causes 'hobby'-sites to gain high positions because they have the advantage of using the power of the main domain.

About.com sites appear to be doing quite well, probably because of the subdomain effect.

And for one of the major keyphrases that I monitor, an affiliate page that has nothing to do with the topic (other than its domain name) is still hanging in there at #2 while several top authority sites have disappeared from view.

Overall, for the keyphrases that I monitor, the results seem to be skewed more toward commercial or business pages than they have been in a long time. (E.g., travel agents' tour descriptions that happen to mention the widget ferryboat rather than articles or service pages on the widget ferryboat.)

I should add that, from where I sit, the changes aren't limited to isolated keyphrases. I have an editorially diverse site of about 4,300 pages that gets nearly all of its Google referrals on "inside pages," and Google traffic is down by at least 50% since these changes began on March 23. I'm sure that, in my sector, [name of TV travel guru and guidebook author] and [name of Continent Activity Commission] are wondering what's going on, too.

isnogood

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Msg#: 28722 posted 4:27 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

{Lordy, a real spammy site that was gone for a couple of months is back in the top 5 in my topic)
can you tell us what is your topic is probably my site:)

ct2000

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 4:42 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I also notice a lot of wikipedia pages springing up high on the SERPS too

snowflake

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 5:07 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I can NOT believe this made the first page news of Webmasterworld! There is NOT a backlink update. As has been verified by several members in this thread, there have been at least two backlink datasets floating around for the past 12 weeks!
Ref msg 21 and 22 of this thread."

This change has NOTHING to do with the two serps that were changing back and forth. This is totally different.

taps

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 5:16 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Searching for "mydomain" I find my site back with "more results from..." again. "more results" vanished with allegra. Too bad it seems to be on one DC only:

216.239.59.104

But there's hope :-)

Spine

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 5:21 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing what europeforvisitors describes, except replace the commercial sites with flimsy auto generated type spam.

Looks like a throwback to the crappy algo of fall for many KWs I follow.

Atticus



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 5:29 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

EFV,

I have been seeing the same thing since June 2004 right through Allegra. The thousands of less significant two or three word phrases I've chased (and caught) for years are dropping down, down, down.

But on say, 20% of those phrases I rank same as always. Maybe G no longer wants any one site to rank across the board for 'this widget,' 'that widget,' or 'the other widget.'

I thought I was safe chasing the 'long tail of searches' as it has been described, but now I'm thinking that the farmer's wife has been busy chopping those tails with her carving knife.

isnogood

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 5:44 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google rocks :)

sailorjwd

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Msg#: 28722 posted 6:27 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Something is certainly happening. Site:mysite.com returns 30% more pages including all the supplemental pages I had removed 1st week of Feb.

Also my homepage is back with backlinks and cache date of 22 Mar after missing in action from dup content problem.

Seems like a rollback to pre-Feb results.

Critter

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 6:37 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ain't over folks.

I lost 75% of traffic, but not it's starting to come back. Be of good cheer, I've seen this sort of thing before. In my opinion Google likes to "clean house" sometimes and blows away pagerank for a lot of pages (especially pages where they are part of a new URI structure as in my case recently) then re-calculate pagerank anew for those pages.

I've had it happen before too when I made major changes to my site's URI structure--I know I shouldn't do this but now I've settled down for sure, really.

Worst that ever happened to me was two years ago around this time of year. Lost *all* of my site's pages in Google for a month, then they came back.

crobb305

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Msg#: 28722 posted 7:09 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am seeing the backlinks fluctuate between a pre-allegra set, and two other sets which I have been watching for 2 to 3 months. One of the sets is much larger than the other two, but none are new. Are there any other members who can vouch for this? Am I losing it?

Chris

MHes

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Msg#: 28722 posted 7:20 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have two sites in the same sector. One has dominated for years with excellent back links and totally unique content. The other has been around for years as well but is a content scrape money making machine that fell last November, it has few links in.

Today the "no links, no original content" site is flying and the genuine site has dropped significantly!?

I suspect the serps we are seeing are more to do with 'onpage' factors than off. In a few days the links and off page factors will kick back in.

Critter - I think you are right and this weekend is a good time for google to 'clean out'.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 7:30 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think you are right and this weekend is a good time for google to 'clean out'.

At the risk of offending the religious, I'll just say that I'm hoping for a resurrection by Easter morning. :-)

reseller

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Msg#: 28722 posted 7:35 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Something is certainly happening. Site:mysite.com returns 30% more pages including all the supplemental pages I had removed 1st week of Feb."

sailorjwd

I´m facing the same thing since this afternoon my local time (GM +1). Around 16 old supplemental pages and 9 dead links which were removed (and confirmed by Google as removed) as late as few days ago, started showing again when run site:www.mysite.dk (:(

Lorel

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 8:16 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Using a tool that Surge suggested in another backlink thread which allows you to check all Google datacenters, and checking 25 sites I monitor, I found the following.

All sites 1 year old and older have reverted back to January's backlink update.

Sites less that 1 year old alternate from being reverted to January's results and February's.

IOW--all backlinks are being reverted to a previous update.

crobb305

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Msg#: 28722 posted 8:36 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lorel,

You have verified my statements that this is not a new backlink update per se. Just resurrection of old backlink datasets that have been floating around intermittently for 3 months.

Chris

diddlydazz

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 8:55 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)


Just resurrection of old backlink datasets

I would have to agree for the sites i am keeping an eye on, i have been seeing these sets of backlinks for at least 2 weeks across the DCs (including new links).

something happened on the 23rd as traffic is up nearly 40% across 3 of our sites (still nowhere near where it was before but it's a start).

Dazz

EFV - Welcome to the other side ;o)

TinkyWinky

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28722 posted 9:02 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

well this veers from being a right mess through to completely derisory.

I am actually doing reasonably well - some sites up, some sites down - so this is fairly objective I suppose.

I monitor about 40 key areas and in at least 20 of those (20 high competition areas) some of the results are laughable.

Redirects to sites no longer there, no site at all and worse still keyword stuffing worthy of Paxo.

I don't think this is anywhere near complete - looks like they are working their way through factors like on and off page factors as well as predictable backlinks, link farsm etc.,

so maybe this one BIG mama of an update across the Easter holidays when traffic will be low.

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