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Backlinks updated Today
Marval




msg:743570
 10:23 pm on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Noted a change in backlinks starting today - seems a small increase across sites I look at

 

MHes




msg:743900
 7:49 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

goofy

Log spamming. Are your stats pages indexed?

reseller




msg:743901
 7:49 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

<There's no way Google would use rotating algos in my opinion.>

sandyeggo

If you donīt feel comfortable with the term "Rotating Algos", then lets call it "Changing Algos". But that doesnīt change facts that several friends have reported in different threads on these forums.

FACTS:

Especially, since the 3rd of Feb 2005:

Several webmasterworld members have reported the followings

- "Rotating" ranking of their pages for specific keyphrases on the serps of Google and Data centers.

- "Rotating" appearance and disappearance of their own sites on the serps and Data centers.

- The frequency of the said "Rotation" has also been mentioned.

Now.. Iīm not buying the argument that Google keep testing/tweaking the same algo since 3rd Feb 2005.

Hence my assumption of "Rotating Algos".

Reid




msg:743902
 9:07 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

goofy - I dont think it's referrer spam because its a google result he's hitting on right?
Maybe the poor guy has finally lost it- checking data centers rotating results ect ect.
Maybe it's a runaway bot pinging googles data centers. Could be a lot of things.

I don't know if it's just me but I see a rollback on all datacenters.
I gained 3 new (adding up to 12) solid backlinks in late feb early march.
They were appearing in normal google query until mid march and now they have disappeared from all 64 data centers that I checked. hmmmm.
I'm getting hits from them but google seems to have lost them altogether.

BillyS




msg:743903
 12:16 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a rollback of links on google.com (64.233.187.104) right now.

JuniorOptimizer




msg:743904
 12:23 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see that too, BillyS. I see the link totals from the prior update.

goofy




msg:743905
 2:44 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

MHes Are your stats pages indexed
no
i had the same thing a few months ago though with another site it could be what Reid sayed "Maybe it's a runaway bot pinging googles data centers"

RS_200_gto




msg:743906
 2:57 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Competitor he is on top with the same keyword / Page rank 3 -10 Inbound links 3
Us our Company name is the keyword and have the same keyword in the URL rank 4 -10 Inbound links 203 and completely out of the SERBS for the last 2 month no changes. last time G o o g l e's cache our company was as retrieved on Feb 11, 2005 08:00:11 GMT

reseller




msg:743907
 3:20 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)


<Us our Company name is the keyword and have the same keyword in the URL rank 4 -10 Inbound links 203 and completely out of the SERBS for the last 2 month no changes.>

RS_200_gto

Very sad reading. But what would you do if this situation continue for another month(s). Do you have a plan B?

RS_200_gto




msg:743908
 3:40 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

We started a Blog in September with the same keyword and URL in its title to help and to promote our company page rank 4-10 inbound links 125 that site was also hit around the same time, but since it is a blog it was cache last on Mar 22, 2005 06:12:37 GMT

Critter




msg:743909
 4:59 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Be patient. It's not over.

My home page is waaaaay down in the SERPS for a unique (coined by me) keyword. The keyword is in the title and is the name of the domain. My home page also has a PR8.

Be patient.

reseller




msg:743910
 7:09 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Critter

Is your site a commercial one too?

Critter




msg:743911
 8:31 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Define Commercial :)

I make money off of it if that's what you mean.

reseller




msg:743912
 8:58 pm on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

<Define Commercial :)

I make money off of it if that's what you mean.>

Critter

Thanks.

I meant by commercial; a site that is to Sell, Pre-Sell, Buy or promote a product or service :)

mjansen




msg:743913
 8:42 pm on Apr 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

At the update of 23 march my site goes down from #1 to #9 at a very competitive keyword.

Yesterdag (1 april) I got my #1 position back at all the datacenters I monitor. But really strange, today I'm again ranking around #7 (different per datacenter).

Is there someone that has any idea how this comes, and what to do? Do you think I will get my #1 position back again, or will I hold my #7 position?

Reid




msg:743914
 9:30 pm on Apr 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google has been dancing for a month now and we can only speculate why and when it will end.
All we can do is wait till it ends and measure the fallout after.

Critter




msg:743915
 11:22 pm on Apr 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

If I had a frickin' dime for every time someone said that...

Atticus




msg:743916
 11:55 pm on Apr 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google now insists on getting drunk before it dances.

mrMister




msg:743917
 12:05 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does anyone has an idea what is the reason that this scambug keep on clicking my page and wasting my bndwch?

How do you know it's the same user?

If you're judging it by IP address, think again. IP addresses aren't specific to individual users.

Maybe someone sent an internal email around their company with a link to a certain Google query for reference. Then everybody in that company (behind a NAT on the same IP) went and had a look at the sites listed there?

moftary




msg:743918
 2:19 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, my website traffic (via Google, of course!) decreased dramatically since 1st April.

No backlink update, no PR update, my website still ranked #1 fot its company name (that was not true in the past weeks), and..

*sigh*

reseller




msg:743919
 7:53 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Reid
<only speculate why and when it will end.
All we can do is wait till it ends and measure the fallout after.>

Atticus
<Google now insists on getting drunk before it dances.>

elingo
<Having read through the 300-odd posts, I'm just glad I'm not the only one, though I have been affected more than most so I fancied a moan.>

blend27
<I see some realy strange things with this update as well.>

Critter
<Be patient. It's not over.>

BillyS
<I am seeing a rollback of links on google.com (64.233.187.104) right now.>

JuniorOptimizer
<I see that too, BillyS. I see the link totals from the prior update.>

RS_200_gto
<Us our Company name is the keyword and have the same keyword in the URL rank 4 -10 Inbound links 203 and completely out of the SERBS for the last 2 month no changes.>

RichTC
<This hasnt settled down yet. Give it chance.>

Friends!

Donīt you think that its about time that all of us start accepting a very simple fact.

What you have been looking at is the NEW Google which was born 3rd February 2005. Its going to be like this until further notice.

Please stop thinking that Google engineers are a bunch of amatures running algos which they donīt have control on and therfore keep tweaking for around two months and it is not settled down yet. Trust me.. IT IS SETTLED DOWN and the faster you accept this fact the faster you will be moving to find solutions for your current situations.

As I see it, you have two choices. Adopt to the new Google or ... leave your website to die in peace.

bekyed




msg:743920
 9:10 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

No, it isnt settled down yet.

Adopting to the new google may be difficult if the serps remain like this.
How can you adopt to an ever changing daily algo, you simply cant because as all good se optimisers know as soon as you get it right, they again move the goalposts.
If you run an eccommerce website for a living, you have to rely on google natural listings, none of the others come close,im sorry they dont!

Yes we use google ads and other pay per click engines to bring traffic but at what cost, I know of a company that lost half their turnover on google because of the florida update and their turnover is over 1 million per year.

We all think we dont have to rely on google but the plain truth is we do if your selling something and need to make a profit.

Its just a shame that google has become the dominator amongst the search engines and in the publics eyes the only place to find relevant results.

Bek

reseller




msg:743921
 10:20 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

bekyed

<No, it isnt settled down yet.>

Yes it is. It settled down on "an ever changing daily/weekly/monthly algos". And thats exactly what I call "The New Google".

<Adopting to the new google may be difficult if the serps remain like this.>

Difficult..yes. Impossible no.

<How can you adopt to an ever changing daily algo, you simply cant because as all good se optimisers know as soon as you get it right, they again move the goalposts.>

"DYNAMIC SEO" might be the way. A friend already came with a suggestion on this thread. We just need more suggestions

And a word about the "all good se optimisers" you mentioned. With all due respect, I call them CLASSIC SEO SPECIALIST who keep telling people "Just wait and see. It isnīt settled yet. Google keep testing to improve results of the serps" ...etc.

Do you know why they are keeping saying that?

Because this is the only way to preserve their AUTHORITY in time where Google moving in the direction of NO AUTHORITY on the serps... UNLESS you match the ever changing algos or what I call "ROTATING ALGOS".
The new SEO authority shall belong to "THE DYNAMIC SEO MASTERS" which I mentioned in a previous posts.

Though the idea of the Rotating Algos is difficult to accept, it isnīt difficult to understand at all.

Most friends here on these forums have registered and noticed that the datacenters are classifieds into Main GROUPS and SUB GROUPS.

Most friends here on these forums have noticed that ranking on different Main Groups/Sub Groups might differ. I.e they are governed by different algos.

For example. Some algos are SEO friendly, others are not. Some algos are Authority Sites friendly, others are not. Some are Affiliate sites friendly, others are not etc....

Your good day on the serps or bad day depends highly on; from which Main Group(s)/Sub Group(s) at any given hour/day the results of the serps are originated.

God bless you all.

bekyed




msg:743922
 10:41 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm,

Ok, but what if like some of our friends here, google does not crawl the site for months, any changes you make to the site will be pointless dynamic or not.

One of our websites has over 1000 incoming links was crawled daily (top 5 in serps) and updated within a few days, this has been crawled daily but has not updated since the beginning of March.

How do you set out your stall then?
As i said this is far from over in my eyes.

Bek.

webace




msg:743923
 11:33 am on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

"IT IS SETTLED DOWN "
IS NOT

TinkyWinky




msg:743924
 12:41 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

IT IS SETTLED DOWN

Sorry reseller, not yet IMHO.

Monitoring 40 key areas including prescription drugs etc says it's not. Big changes last night to remove Blog/cloaking spam - resulting in 5 out of top 20 results disappearing over night.

This is particularly for the largest prescription term in the UK.

Still quite a bit of spam (i.e. blog and cloaked pages) left in top 50 on many key areas that was not there before start of March - so I expect further tweaking over the coming days and maybe for good if many of the suspected posts about shifting algos are to be believed!

reseller




msg:743925
 1:27 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

<IT IS SETTLED DOWN

Sorry reseller, not yet IMHO.>

TinkyWinky

Maybe we are witnessing a "bloody" Search-Revolution palanned and executed by the bright enginners at Google using the Rotating Algos as a stealth killing weapon, and only time can show the extent of Collateral Damages.

.... and the 3rd February 2005 shall be regarded as a milestone in the world of search engines.

and... I still say, I might be very very wrong on this one :)

Wish you all a great day.

Jakpot




msg:743926
 5:06 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

It will never settle down. If it did what would all
the Google engineers do with their time?
Continuous change provides job security.

Rollo




msg:743927
 7:46 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see them using a very old data set, many months old, right now for some serps. Also there are many problems with site descriptions. These are plainly visable, objective, and I highly doubt desireable from Google's perspective.

The new Google may be in a state of perpetual change, however these two facts give one reason to believe something has gone wrong and Google is having problems at the moment.

Working with my own very bright and capable programmers, I know that s@#t happens from time to time.

Spine




msg:743928
 10:19 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see too much irrelevant auto generated computer spam for this to be a clever or deliberate thing.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:743929
 10:41 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, this seems to be the:

"RSS Feeds + PHP Script + Adsense = Content" Update

jgbmarc




msg:743930
 7:13 am on Apr 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

reseller is thinking too hard..and what's god got to do with it?

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