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Pagerank '0' puzzle
markd




msg:774241
 9:37 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello all
I am working on a site which has many, many good quality, topic related backward links. The links themselves come from respected sites in the field.

The site is very much 'white hat', no e-commerce, just information only. It is an established site, using an establshed domain, but has undergone a redesign about 3 months ago. Even so, the incoming links all go to the domain, www.[ domain name ].co.uk, rather than a potentally redundant page.

Despite this, the pagerank is 0 and the Google toolbar says that there are no backward links to the domain! I was going to check the links to see if there were any which would cause a problem of this kind.

Any ideas as to why this seemingly 'respectable' site has a 0 Pagerank and is showing no backward links in Google whatsoever?

[edited by: ciml at 10:18 am (utc) on Mar. 22, 2005]
[edit reason] Examplified [/edit]

 

grail




msg:774242
 11:18 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is googlebot showing in the logs?

have you checked

http://www.thedomain.co.uk/
http://thedomain.co.uk/
http://www.thedomain.co.uk/index.htm
http://thedomain.co.uk/index.htm

was the homepage another page before the redesign?
google hasn't updated pagerank in a few months has it, it may be that it just hasn't been calculated yet?

They say that toolbar pr and real pr are different don't they? is the domain still getting visits?

[edited by: lawman at 12:03 am (utc) on Mar. 24, 2005]

markd




msg:774243
 2:32 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your reply Grail.

The domain and the home page are all fine and available via the browser.

As far as I know, the home page was always 'index.asp', so I don't think the index was ever a different suffix or format.

Good point on the logs - I have a look and also to check the robots.txt.

The main mystery are the number and quality of inbound links. They are the sort of quantity/quality that most sites would give their right arm for, yet this site has them and they are nowhere in Google - either SERPS or Pagerank...

kryton




msg:774244
 1:08 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

"google hasn't updated pagerank in a few months has it, it may be that it just hasn't been calculated yet?"

Has anyone else noticed that the PR displayed in Googles directory seems to be different to what is displayed on the toolbar?

Emmett




msg:774245
 1:20 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, I noticed that. One of my sites is PR3 on the toolbar but PR1 on the directory.

kryton




msg:774246
 1:24 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've also noticed that for most sites the PR ranking shown in Google's directory is lower than what is show on the toolbar. Could it be that Google's directory more up to date, and an indication of what your PR will be?

Emmett




msg:774247
 3:48 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)


Could it be that Google's directory more up to date, and an indication of what your PR will be?

Thats what I'm afraid of. :/

MoneyMan




msg:774248
 3:55 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm looks like there are two of these threads going and I posted [webmasterworld.com] in the other one everyone's ignoring.

Consider this my thread hop to this one.

What is the backlink status in yahoo? Y's backlink check is less filtered and will give you a better point of reference. If all your backlinks in G are from very good sources G might be filtering them purposefully from view. Just some theories that have been floated around here. Regardless, Y is a truer picture of your backlinks.

Also, is your domain.co.uk redirecting to you your www.domain.co.uk? If not you might be having some issues with PR dispersement between the two domains (assuming both are the same content).

markd




msg:774249
 9:10 am on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the advice MoneyMan - presumably Yahoo backlinks are a feature of the Yahoo toolbar?

The domain itself it actually www.domain.co.uk - no redirects at all.

anallawalla




msg:774250
 9:57 am on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

presumably Yahoo backlinks are a feature of the Yahoo toolbar

I don't know about that but if you use Yahoo Search, use the command:

linkdomain:www.domain.co.uk

and you will see your Y backlinks.

MoneyMan




msg:774251
 4:53 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

The domain itself it actually www.domain.co.uk - no redirects at all.

What happens when you type domain.co.uk?

topr8




msg:774252
 4:56 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

how about www.example.co.uk/index.asp

composer




msg:774253
 12:53 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

duplicate site...

www.domain.com.uk
www.sedo.co.uk

google says: your redirect is : [sedo.co.uk...]

composer




msg:774254
 2:00 am on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry.
I wrote an URL for thinking real (domain.co... and sedo...)
I'm new in here and I do not realize this is'nt accepted.

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