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Tips for Getting Added to Google?
dualfragment




msg:766052
 8:09 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

A few other search engines have found my website, but none of them have completly spidered my site. Alexa did about 20 pages, and yahoo spidered 1 page. I have over 7000 pages of content now, but still no visit from Google.

What gives?

 

MHes




msg:766053
 10:08 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi

Check list:

Have you got another site linking to you that is in google?
Can google follow this link?
Can google follow your internal links?

gerd




msg:766054
 11:23 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I have over 7000 pages of content now"
well create 7000 spam blogs crosslik them all and in every one of those 7000 blogs put a text link with the keywords you wish for your main page,within a month you will be top of the tops in Google.Thats how it works.

arrowman




msg:766055
 5:33 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Based on the information you have given us, the cause of the problem cannot be determined.

dualfragment




msg:766056
 6:22 pm on Mar 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do you want me to create 7000 blogs with the link to EACH of my 7000 DIFFERENT pages? Or just 7000 blogs with a link to my MAIN page? Each of my different pages has different keywords.

Also, how does google find the blogs in the first place, which link to my site?

DerekH




msg:766057
 7:06 pm on Mar 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

The well-proven, well-accepted and no-risk answer is to get links from sites that are themselves listed in Google.
Spamming blogs is the mark of desperation - start with the no-risk ideas first...
DerekH

Lorel




msg:766058
 2:46 am on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

are all 7000 of those pages original content? if not you may be penalized for duplicate content.

dualfragment




msg:766059
 8:36 am on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

It is a lyrics website, which means that the content will obviously be duplicated since the words to songs are just that, words :)

Is that bad?

Wizard




msg:766060
 8:18 pm on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

You have to add other related, unique content on each page, to be absolutely sure you won't get penalty. Users reviews are a good way to go.

Don't hesitate to add links to related authority sites, for example official websites of bands and their publishers. Google likes pages with quality links, users like it too.

Submit page to DMOZ and other directories - Google will spider it after finding the links from them.

If you want to spam blogs - do it with links to your competition ;))) (just kidding, don't try it at all, or you'll lose your domain and will have to start from the beginning)

dualfragment




msg:766061
 12:15 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the helpful reply. I tried getting myself added to DMOZ, but I had no such luck.

martingale




msg:766062
 12:48 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Forget about Google for awhile. Concentrate on building up quality links to your site from other sites. When users start following those links to your content, so will Google.

dualfragment




msg:766063
 2:26 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

The problem is that I want my site to look professional, and not be cluttered up with a bunch of links. Can you suggest a way of getting links to my site (without making something like spam blogs,) while staying away from link exchanges?

Atticus




msg:766064
 3:54 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

dualfragment,

Do you have permission from the authors of these 7000 songs to publish their lyrics, or are these all old traditional meleodies, or are they original works?

Most music published since 1923 is protected by copyright (US law, your mileage may vary). It is against the TOS of most advertisers to run ads on sites that infringe copyright. It could also get you sued. Also a reason for not getting listed in DMOZ (like they need a reason -- but that's another story). Lots of folks get away with copyright infringement, esp. in the lyrics area -- but it's still against the law.

If you own these lyrics, you shouldn't have any problems with duplicate content vs other sites. I apologize for any false assumptions I may have made, but better safe than sorry, you know.

dualfragment




msg:766065
 4:22 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am not trying to infringe copyrights. I only intend to provide an informational site. I'm not going to highly commercialize it with tons of "BUY THIS ALBUM NOW!" ads; just a Google AdSense ad to cover hosting costs.

Theres even a directory on DMOZ.org that is just for lyrics, and they have sites that are similar to mine (albeit, those sites have too many advertisements, and popups,) yet they don't seem to have any problems.

Check out my profile to see if you notice anything with my site that would prevent it from being indexed.

Atticus




msg:766066
 4:53 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

df,

Don't see a URL in your profile...

However, regarding the "informational" nature of the site, it would be difficult to claim "fair use" of song lyrics or any intellectual property for that matter, if you quote it at length (more than just a few lines).

It wouldn't suprise me if DMOZ has lots of lyrics sites listed with content that is not properly licensed. I just thought that perhaps you wouldn't want to risk losing that lucrative Adsense account for violting the Adsense TOS. Could go up in a puff of smoke. Also, a DMCA notice could get your entire site zapped off your server overnight without you ever being notified. Seems like a waste of time and effort to create thousands of pages of material which you simply don't own.

Again, I apologize if my assumptions are incorrct and BTW, I am not a lawyer, although my nickname played one in a novel and a movie.

dualfragment




msg:766067
 4:59 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

*shrug*

It could go up in a puff of smoke that way...or I could just shut down the site now.

Either way all my hard work would be lost :(

Atticus




msg:766068
 5:18 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

df,

There's lots of information that you can use safely and freely in the public domain. If you really want to publish a web site that looks professional and makes a few bucks, why not do a little research into material which you can use legally, then find a way to repackage it in a manner which is valuable to internet users?

Do some research on terms like "intellectual property," "copyright" and "public domain." There's enough material available out there that you should have little problem keeping busy.

You could also try creating your own material based on the songs of your favorite bands. Write reviews, create quizzes, etc. You could even quote some songs in your reviews and articles, if you keep it short and give proper credit to the authors (fair use).

There's so much opportunity to create content you can call your own, why feel bad about making a mistake or two on the way? Good luck and have fun!

dualfragment




msg:766069
 1:20 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

You gave me an idea of what I can make my site into, but I will probably need a new domain.

Also, something weird happened. If I do a text search of my URL in google, there is a cached page with a link to my site, but google didn't follow the link, according to my logs. Why did this happen?

Atticus




msg:766070
 4:46 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

df,

I wouldn't be too concerned about Gbot not following one specific link. Even when G was working in a predicable manner, it sometimes took a month or more for inbound links to be spidered and added.

Just keep working on your content, make it good and clean and something that people will find useful.

robotsdobetter




msg:766071
 6:15 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can you suggest a way of getting links to my site (without making something like spam blogs,) while staying away from link exchanges?
There are many ways to go about it, but the ones below are the best.

1) Write a Press Release about your web site, make sure you placed a link to your site in it and submit it to Press Release web sites.

2) Write a testimonial of a site, service or product and submit it to them, make sure you put your link in there.

3) Submit to directories such as Yahoo!, DMOZ and Joe Ant. You will also likely find directories that are just for your market or local area.

4) Write articles and a submit them to article sites, in the the author's resource box put your link in there.

5) Join forums that are about your subject and insert your link in your signature file on each post, but be careful some forums do NOT allow (Such as Webmaster World.) this and will kick you out.

dualfragment




msg:766072
 4:45 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks to your tips, Googlebot actually visited my site last night! Unfortunately, it only visited my index.php. Is that normal? Or is there a problem?

robotsdobetter




msg:766073
 7:58 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Googlebot wll sometimes just visit one page, while other times it will visit half or more of your pages. Just keep getting links from good sources and update your site often and you will have all or most of your site index in no time.

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