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Backward Links Updated, The Cycle has Begun?
Backward Links
twebdonny




msg:752229
 3:50 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

We have just had our backward links updated. Has the newest cycle begun? Anyone else noticing this and what is the timetable for update "next allegry medication" name?

 

walkman




msg:752319
 8:12 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)


"We lost 1/3 of our backlinks as did other sites we compete agains. We went from 3k+ to 1100. I dont understand how other increased BL's."

I woudl ignore them completely. Google shows whatever they decide to show.

stargeek




msg:752320
 8:25 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah my site was dropped during last update and it came back for a second today, now its gone again, I guess this means there is an update in play.

mrMister




msg:752321
 9:15 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Bah, one of my clients missed out of the Directory update by a couple of days. Anyone know how long before the next directory update?

Rollo




msg:752322
 10:48 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been boucing in and out of the sandbox for a day or two now. But this is the first time I;ve shown up for a long time one google.com (or whichever DC is feeding the PR10 search page). I really hope this time we'll make it out of Google pergatory.

spaceylacie




msg:752323
 11:00 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

My backwords links recently(within last few days) went from 355(was my average for a while) to 344 to 393. It seems to be staying at 393 now.

bobothecat




msg:752324
 11:03 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd say this is an update (perhaps not complete) - wait until Sunday, as another poster mentioned.

spaceylacie




msg:752325
 11:09 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree. This is a wait and see issue. My site got added to an extra Google directory page within the last few days as well, with a custom written description. Hits from Google are currently up.

minnapple




msg:752326
 11:09 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Deja Vu - Back to the old monthly update?

Rollo




msg:752327
 11:14 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think Google is gathering more data to decide which set of SERPs they'd like to use, my sites are gone again... damn.

otnot




msg:752328
 11:22 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow my main site that has been at #2 or 3 for a couple of years just went MIA. Is G dancing this weekend?

spaceylacie




msg:752329
 11:36 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I think Google is gathering more data to decide which set of SERPs they'd like to use"

Yes, they are! I haven't seen changes like this many months.

Someone mentioned Google's monthly updates, it would be nice if they did update monthly... But who is going to update with one month's worth of data? Not me, and certainly not Google.

eZeB




msg:752330
 11:44 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Looks to me like partial results to me -- one site has dropped but only shows 7.5 Million sites instead of 9.5 Million where it has been for over a year.

Other searches are all over the place --
(results)

88 Mil up from 37 Mil
37 Mil up from 22 Mil
10 Mil down from 14 Mil

nutsandbolts




msg:752331
 10:50 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Happy to see my sandboxed allegra sites back in in the main index again. Seeing these on the main Google results pages.

arras




msg:752332
 11:26 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

"my sandboxed allegra sites back in in the main index again"
(not sites only one site) same here as well 2 hours ago in all Googles ,now gone again,what's goin on.

arras




msg:752333
 12:03 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

back again.It is an update.
shall we call it -whisky update- (remeber "brandy" follow "florida")

moftary




msg:752334
 4:27 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

DC on 216.239.53.104 reports my site as #3 which was MIA in allegra. On the other DCs it's still MIA.

Very fluctuating results between DCs in the moment.

--mOftary

moftary




msg:752335
 4:30 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

shall we call it -whisky update- (remeber "brandy" follow "florida")

With these fluctuations, I highly agree on the name "whiskey" (Although even with whiskey, people dont flucuate the way google does) *sigh*

arras




msg:752336
 5:09 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

whisky or whiskey scotch or Irish both makes you drunk,like those updates.

Crush




msg:752337
 8:46 am on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

saw reults on www this morning and now gone again! grrrr

jez_kewler




msg:752338
 11:15 am on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)


The typical disorientation that Google follows deserves a more potent narcotic name...

what about "Angel Dust" or "PCP"?

they give you high hallucinations over a multi-day period combined with a common desorientation and loss of reality

george123




msg:752339
 11:36 am on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

i have a name for what you call a new update
the "goofy made alegra" update!

Chard




msg:752340
 12:04 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

PCP? - CPC more like!

Rollo




msg:752341
 1:07 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know that most here thinks that Google is some infallible power approaching the divine, but I'm beginning to thing that they've gotten so far away from what made them the leader in search that they've become totally incompetent. I don't see how these radical mood swings are helping. What logic can there be for a site to be #1, then gone, then #1, then gone, then #1 again? This new in and out thing is horrendous, what ever happened to moving up and down each month?

I'm back in the SERPs (for the moment), but I don't see cutting edge here, I see a blind man trying to find his way around the living room after somebody rearranged his furniture without telling him.

Liane




msg:752342
 1:38 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

This new in and out thing is horrendous, what ever happened to moving up and down each month?

This behaviour during updates is far from new. You only need to look at Google update threads over the past several years to discover that it takes a while for the various data centers to settle down.

Do a site search for Google update and take a look. Be patient, we may still be seeing fluctuations for another week or it could settle down by tomorrow. Its anyone's guess.

fatpeter




msg:752343
 2:55 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can anyone answer this? 6th feb i was relegated. i.e.... for my own company name down to 300 from 1st and any other search down from first page to non existant. First time in 3 years for me! now i see in the other datacenters my site back in a similiar position to before feb 6th. Occasionally now i get a refferal or 2 from google whereas for the last month nothing. Should I expect my site to come back in the position it is now on the other datacenters or are there other factors still to be applied and my situation will stay the same?

steveb




msg:752344
 11:24 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

In my niches, pages from the Wikipedia have almost exploded up the serps in the past 24 hours. Previously they have never ranked in the top 25 for these hotly competitive terms, but on many datacenters they are in the top 10 now... and it is even more interesting that it is the second most appropriate wiki page for the terms. The most appropriate page is showing as a URL listing right now (wikipedia pages do that all the time).

<wild speculation>
It seems that Google is way way way overcompensating for the elimination of wikipedia's ability to have a hub score (due to its outbound links now being no-follow)... OR... the effect of no-follow has HUGELY boosted the wikipedia PR and thus raised the rankings for its indexed pages.
</wild speculation>

moftary




msg:752345
 12:33 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Any news on a pagerank update?
I see fluctuations on a subdomain of mine, going up and down between PR6 and PR0.

--mOftary

Kirby




msg:752346
 4:00 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

steve, have you considered the theory that no follow only relates to PR?. Google still sees and counts the links, they just dont pass PR?

Could Wiki have benefited from a PR boost without losing hub status?

Powdork




msg:752347
 7:50 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Others have reported wikpedia pages dropping recently (immediately following the nofollow's introduction). Maybe that was the effect of losing their hub status and this mini-update is affecting it's authority status, which may have risen due to it's increase in 'followed' one way links. If so, is that because the timing is separate for the two events and the updates just take into account whatever factors have been incorporated at update time OR Was the previous update to hub scores and this update is to authority scores. That would be interesting.

There should be a name for your inbound links that do not have the nofollow attribute. ('Net Inbound Links', 'Natural Inbound Links', 'Inbound Links According to the Gospel of Google') Any ideas?

RealEstate




msg:752348
 6:36 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just noticed my PageRank on one site went from 3 to 5 in the Google Directory. No change in my toolbar yet (still at 3).

Am I the only one?

spaceylacie




msg:752349
 6:23 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was recently added to an extra Google directory page, but page rank shows 5/10 in both new directory page and PR showing on my page. It's probably something unique to your site. Your page rank is probably being updated due to a change you made to the site.

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