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Backward Links Updated, The Cycle has Begun?
Backward Links
twebdonny




msg:752229
 3:50 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

We have just had our backward links updated. Has the newest cycle begun? Anyone else noticing this and what is the timetable for update "next allegry medication" name?

 

lego_maniac




msg:752259
 8:15 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)


rfgdxm1:
I'm seeing what could be called a minor update, or some serious flux. The problem is that we don't have the monthly Google dances of days gone by. There is no agreed upon term for these minor updates today.

Apparently there is some factor that backlinks play when computing a site's position, and BL updates only occur about once a month (the last one was Feb 3). So a "minor update" will likely happen whenever they do a backlink update (and also quarterly PR updates).

kwngian




msg:752260
 8:18 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)


One of my site was badly hit by the Allegra update, 50-60% drop. As of today, it has gone up back to pre-Allegra stage. So there is definitely an update going on.

suggy




msg:752261
 8:51 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Toolbar has started working sporadically; often a sign something's afoot.

rj87uk




msg:752262
 8:53 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

We can all agree to something is goin on, but we should try to stick to as much facts as we can and less of the me too's. These threads are great for a heads up and im sure we all get something from them.

So please when posting it would be great if you can tell us:

- where your based and where your host is based.
- data center IP's.
- How many results returned for the keyword you watch. (this is handy)
- and any other information you find relevant.

thanks

steveb




msg:752263
 8:54 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google Directory has been updated. 216.239.57.104 among others.

phantombookman




msg:752264
 9:22 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

One site went MIA after Allegra, literally gone completely, now back at #1

Rest no change post Allegra

nakulgoyal




msg:752265
 10:13 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Great update. All my sites doing good. Love that when this kind of links update occurs.

arras




msg:752266
 10:34 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

"results seems to be stabilized in 18 Dcenters "
today in 26.

rfgdxm1




msg:752267
 10:38 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

>Apparently there is some factor that backlinks play when computing a site's position, and BL updates only occur about once a month (the last one was Feb 3). So a "minor update" will likely happen whenever they do a backlink update (and also quarterly PR updates).

This would tend to explain a lot of what I see.

zeus




msg:752268
 12:16 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do see new link backs here 216.239.57.104 , but thats the only DC

arras




msg:752269
 12:48 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

"results seems to be stabilized in 18 Dcenters
today in 26"
---28-----

Rugles




msg:752270
 1:44 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have now seen a 4th backlink count for one site and some movement (thankfully upward). So I would say it is at least a minor update.

BillyS




msg:752271
 2:02 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is one of the biggest jumps for my website to date...

- Links increased by 50%
- Up from 27th to 19th in the directory

Now if the sand wasn't so deep...

jaffstar




msg:752272
 2:39 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do see new link backs here 216.239.57.104 , but thats the only DC

I am also only seeing a bl update as well as serp gains on the above dc.

Rugles




msg:752273
 2:44 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

That is the dc I am seeing a BL update on, 216.239.57.104.

jaffstar




msg:752274
 2:45 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

That what as well :) Hopefully that dances across.

walkman




msg:752275
 2:57 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

[216.239.39.104...] 1
[216.239.39.99...] 1
[216.239.53.104...] 1
[216.239.53.99...] 1
[64.233.171.99...] 1
[64.233.179.104...] 1
[64.233.179.99...] 1
[64.233.185.99...] 1
[64.233.187.104...] 1
[64.233.187.99...] 1
[66.102.7.104...] 1
[66.102.7.99...] 1

MIA on others. it varies by a few. old data?

Aylah




msg:752276
 3:07 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a site that is showing a DECREASE in backlinks, an INCREASE in pr(from 4 to 5), and no cached snapshot.

My other sites are showing an increase in backlinks.

zeus




msg:752277
 3:42 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Before you go nuts about new backlinks, think about this, many of those are from scrapers, which I HOPE google will remove by time, so I would call those temp. links.

Rugles




msg:752278
 3:47 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>many of those are from scrapers

Not the ones I saw.

zeus




msg:752279
 4:14 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Rugles I dont say all, but many are.

phantombookman




msg:752280
 4:15 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

On the DC's showing the new serps a site: search shows most of my sites having slightly less pages in the index!?

Rugles




msg:752281
 4:35 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know zeus, they really are scourge these days.

fixed spelling

mrMister




msg:752282
 6:10 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow, one of my sites has returned to the front page. For years it was number one, then it dropped to 3rd. Then somewhere between the 13th - 22nd of January it vanished to the lower depths of the SERPS.

Today it is 4th (Just below a page that mysteriously appeared in place of mine in position 3)

Still no sign of my other site that disappeared from the top ranking at around the same time.

fatpeter




msg:752283
 6:37 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

yep. I am back to. About the same place as I was before feb the 6th. Came back in last 2 days for a few minutes only...got a couple of referals and then was out again. So far been back in for 4 hours and referals have returned to previous levels.

walkman




msg:752284
 6:58 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

well, I'm not in where it matters: on the DCs that actually go into rotation. The Dcs that I'm in (over half of what #*$! has) apparently don't matter.

vabtz




msg:752285
 7:11 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

is it a measure of success when you start finding your site in scrappers more often?

jasonlambert




msg:752286
 10:35 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

One of my sites is up about 2,000 links... one of my competitors is down by about 5,000.

Mikey85




msg:752287
 10:39 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

My 2 sites are 30.000 backlinks up!

tigerholm




msg:752288
 2:11 am on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

What does it mean when 'link:' command for a url shows 2,240 links and then when you inquire for the url the result is:

'Google can show you the following information for this URL:

Show Google's cache of www.widgets.mysite
Find web pages that are similar to www.widgets.mysite =29
Find web pages that link to www.widgets.mysite = 93
Find web pages that contain the term "www.widgets.mysite" =11,500

command allinurl = 8,600

MSN BL =986, Yahoo BL=811

Are the actual backlinks only 93? Why only 93

coosblues




msg:752289
 3:52 am on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've read the many threads on the "sandbox issue", but at the time only had sites that were well-established. I put up a new site three weeks ago. All of the pages have been indexed, and the site shows with this backlink update a whole 1 backlink from my index page. I'm buried so far I've quit looking and the links I do have are from what I consider topical and respectable link partners. It will be interesting to see just how long this process takes. I've got a log of dates when certain things entered the index and there is a number of days lag with these results.

Someone also menioned that the PR bar acts irrtatically when something is about to happen. I've noticed this "every" time about 2 days before an update of some sort occurs. I'd say for nearly 1/2 hour about two nights ago many sites, including Google had no PR. I cleaned the cache, history, etc and still had no toolbar. I was about to reinstall when it came back on a more frequent basis.. Just my observations

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