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Faking your Pagerank
... have done it with PR9 and PR10
internetheaven

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Msg#: 28181 posted 9:54 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

It has been a while since this has been discussed and as the number of "should I buy links?" threads seems to be increasing I thought it prudent to mention to those who do not know that Pagerank (i.e. the little green bar on your Google toolbar) can be faked. I have done it successfully to make a brand new page seem to be PR9 and even PR10. There are three techniques I know of to pull this off but I have only ever tested one of them (because it was the easiest!).

It would take a lot of investigation to find out whether this Pagerank was faked but it is worth it in the end. With people charging upward of $1000 per month for PR9 links it's better to know that you are actually getting a PR9 link!

Personally, I am fine with link buying but I disagree that the Pagerank of the page is the ultimate factor in buying a link ..... but that's another debate. Hope I've saved some of you some cash.

 

phpdude

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28181 posted 4:08 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

You have mentioned this process numerous times now yet when asked, you refuse to tell people how to do it. I asked you personally and you refused.

If your so against pagerank, tell people how to do this and it will have a much bigger effect than just coming here and saying, " Hey everybody, I'm so great because I can fake pagerank, but I'm not telling you how to do it."

Sorry, but I'm sick of hearing about it. If we know how to do it, we can look for sites that are doing it and "save us some cash".

Either tell us how to do it, or quit talking about it.

AndyA

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28181 posted 4:21 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm with phpdude, either cough up the info or quit bragging about it! Besides, PR is just one of the factors Google uses to rank pages, so a high PR in the end may not mean that much.

Many feel like PR is being deprecated somewhat anyway, due in part to abuse...perhaps by people faking Page Rank?

buckworks

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Msg#: 28181 posted 4:30 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

He's not bragging, he's alerting you to a real problem.

How the effect is achieved is not exactly something that should be discussed on an open message board!

All I'll say is that if you're considering spending significant sums for a link from a site that apparently has high PR (or maybe even buying a site) check out their backlinks very, very, very carefully and make sure they are what they seem.

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 28181 posted 4:34 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Here is one way to do it.

Make a domain an alias of a high PR site.

Give it a link, so it gets indexed.

Wait for the PR to update.

Stop aliasing the domain.

Voila! Your site has the same PR as the target site.

Not a secret anymore.

JuniorOptimizer

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Msg#: 28181 posted 4:38 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep. And someone looking at the backlinks will notice you have the same identical links as Yahoo! Weird, because they never heard of your site.

ciml

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Msg#: 28181 posted 5:04 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

> someone looking at the backlinks will notice you have the same identical links

Yep, which is how people can save some cash if they still think it's useful to buy PR.

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 28181 posted 5:57 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

>How the effect is achieved is not exactly something that should be discussed on an open message board!

Good point. As a hacker (as opposed to a cracker; if you don't know the difference look it up), if I knew how to fake PR posting here how to do so wouldn't be the way to go. What he needs to back up his claim is some highly credible people who won't reveal this publicly to confirm it.

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 28181 posted 6:01 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

>Yep. And someone looking at the backlinks will notice you have the same identical links as Yahoo! Weird, because they never heard of your site.

Exactly. Before buying high PR links, the buyer should verify that indeed the page legitimately has them. There is just NO way to have a PR9 page without having high power backlinks. Check out those linking pages and see if they really are linking to the page you want to buy a link on.

Macro

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Msg#: 28181 posted 6:28 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

internetheaven, thanks for the warning. phpdude, I believe PatrickDeese has answered the question :) There have been many "directories" that have gone on a massive link exchange spree after getting a high PR. Then the PR of the home page dropped but the IBLs they had acquired to internal pages continued to provide them PR benefit. Common trick.

Buying links for PR is pretty much a waste of time unless you hope to sell PR yourself... or are prettifying your site prior to sale.

encyclo

WebmasterWorld Senior Member encyclo us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28181 posted 6:46 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Let me guess...

<?php
/* insert your favorite cloaking script here to detect whether the visitor is Googlebot */
if (Googlebot) {
echo '<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://www.google.com/">';
exit();
}
else {
echo "<p>My PR10 page!</p>";
}
?>

Of course, the page wouldn't rank at all, but it should be enough to change the color of the little green bar. This kind of thing is being done for parked domains for sale, has been for years, and it is far from being a state secret.

phpdude

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 28181 posted 7:41 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks to all who posted on what to look for!

All I wanted was some real info as to what to look for when sites ask for link exchanges. If they are faking PR, I don't want nothing to do with them.

Now that it has been explained, it seems pretty simple. Sometimes the simplist things are the hardest to see because your looking to hard to try and see them!

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