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Fall in Link Exchange requests..
Anyone else notice this or is it just me?
cleanup




msg:737853
 8:35 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Since Allegra I notice a marked drop in emails asking for link exchanges..

As people here with top ranking sites will know usually there is a steady stream of email requests asking for links.

My sites are still top ranking after Allegra so could it be that people are noticing a smaller benefit for reciprocal links after Allegra? and not bothering ..or is it just me?

 

Brett_Tabke




msg:737854
 4:48 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm. Now that you mention it. I have too. hmmm

europeforvisitors




msg:737855
 4:58 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've seen an increase, and most of the requests are really, really stupid--especially since I state very clearly on our "Contact Us" page that "we aren't interested in 'reciprocal linking' or 'link exchanges'--we link for editorial reasons, not to boost rankings in search engines."

After reading that statement, why would (for example) a real-estate broker in the Dominican Republic bother sending a request for a link exchange to a European travel-planning site?

I'm guessing that the remainder tables at Barnes & Noble are stacked high with a five-year-old book titled SEO FOR DUMMIES, and its readers are cranking out doorway pages and stuffing keywords between meta and alt tags at the same time they're lecturing other Webmasters about the benefits of transferring Google PR via link swaps.

oddsod




msg:737856
 5:05 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yup, I've noticed it too. And, good riddance. Those emails were getting tiresome. Maybe new revisions of SEO for Dummies will stop advising to get links and I'll stop getting this link request SPAM.

glitterball




msg:737857
 5:12 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wish that I could say the same.
I'm still being bombarded with link exchange requests.
I'm even tempted to laugh when I get requests to exchange links with my (currently) MIA site.

hunderdown




msg:737858
 5:14 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

My favorite bone-headed link exchange request was from an "everything about Chicago" site that was happy to tell me it had linked to my review of the Chicago Manual of Style, and wanted a link back....

sem4u




msg:737859
 5:29 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am getting more and a lot of them offer links on pages that won't be crawled as they are not linked from any other pages...

JerryOdom




msg:737860
 5:40 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

As my site expands I'm constantly getting more silly requests due to increased rankings in a variety of different keywords. As per the topic I haven't noticed any more or less.

cleanup




msg:737861
 5:42 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

EFV,
The increase you are seeing could be because your network did quite well out of Allegra? ;)

steveb




msg:737862
 7:23 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ever increasing amount of requests as well as stupidity quotient in the requests.

Slone




msg:737863
 7:33 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't people get it?

We have visited your web site and feel that your site fits perfectly with the profile(s) we are looking for in a partner for their site.
;)

More of this junk coming in on our end... I was just joking about it this AM ha!

cleanup




msg:737864
 7:38 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep, starting to see more today.

I guess it was just a hiatus after allegra.

Everyone was probably too busy typing in their keywords like cazy and analysing the SERPS to bother with sending out pesky emails...

europeforvisitors




msg:737865
 8:50 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

EFV,
The increase you are seeing could be because your network did quite well out of Allegra? ;)

Cleanup, I hadn't thought of that, but you're probably right. I guess there's a cloudy side to every silver lining. :-)

Solution1




msg:737866
 9:03 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I added some Javascript to my email form which checks for word combinations like "reciprocal link", "link partners", "exchange links" and such. If found the message will not be sent, and instead they get an alert that my site doesn't do reciprocal linking.

Crush




msg:737867
 9:25 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

We are still sending out as much spam as ever..hehe. I got 280 million new mails today.

zafile




msg:737868
 12:19 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

The owners of [real estate franchise] received this e-mail recently:

----- Original Message -----
From: [Spammer]
To: [real estate franchise]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:56 AM

This is the absolute worst [real estate franchise] web page that I have ever seen. You
definitely need links to your listings for sale. I was interested in buying
through [real estate franchise], but not after viewing your web page

:)

Spica




msg:737869
 12:45 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lol, zafile. Thank you for making me laugh.

This guy may behave this way because his spammy pages are ranking well. Just like this page, which Google now lists above my site (and many other relevant ones) for the "keyword1 keyword2" query. This winning page has a title that is right on target: "Reciprocal keyword1 keyword2 links". C'mon, Google!

samwise




msg:737870
 1:10 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi

I haven't read every message in this post but wanted to ask about something.

When I search for my "sitename" in Google (not sitename.com) I've noticed that I have around 8000 or so returned items listed. This is way up from the last time I looked which was 2 or 3 months ago which was maybe 3000.

I've found a number of German sites that have a link to my site on every page of their site(s). These sites are named like so: site1.info site2.info and on up to site22.info.

Then I noticed that there is a whole bunch of other sites created in the same way: anothersite1.info -> anothersite22.info and again links on every page.

Upon looking some more I found a number of cooking sites, bicycle sites and you name it and my link is on there site. I didn't and wouldn't have put my link there. These websites are basically a bunch of links to other websites with no real info except for couple of lines of description.

Could these links cause problems for mysite from Google’s viewpoint?

I don’t have any links back to these sites and didn’t ask for any of these links to be placed on these sites. If this does cause a problem what would you do to “fix” it?

Thanks

JeremyL




msg:737871
 1:39 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Since Allegra I notice a marked drop in emails asking for link exchanges..

Probably has something to do with all the rumors floating around different message boards that recip links have been devalued by Google. That and the rumor about the sandbox being caused by unatural link building paterns.

hunderdown




msg:737872
 4:29 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

samwise, if you don't link to these sites, I don't think you need be concerned--there has been some discussion that Google is penalizing link farms of interlinked pages between sites, but that's only a problem for you if you link back. Which you don't.

Then there's the dread 301 redirect, but I'm guessing that doesn't apply here....

samwise




msg:737873
 5:43 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi hunderdown

Thank you for your reply :)

Nikke




msg:737874
 8:12 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm getting automized form mails asking for link exchanges. The only thing different in them is the domain that wants the link, and the name of the (always female) "webmistress".

However, I'm also starting to get requests by people who wants to buy text links from our pages by the month. And that is much more interesting.

too much information




msg:737875
 8:30 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a fairly new directory with a "add your link" link (for approval) and I still get e-mails asking for link exchanges. They say, "I loved your site... I think it would be good for my visitors."

Yea, you've never been there or you would have added your own link.

rustybrick




msg:737876
 8:32 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have been getting more, need to improve my procmail rules.

gmiller




msg:737877
 2:51 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I had been getting a steady stream of generic "we have a client of so-and-so type and we'll send you the info if you're interested in swapping links" mails, but now those have stopped and I've started getting the insanely stupid ones.

My personal favorite was a gigantic links page with all sorts of clearly autogenerated links. They even had one with the site title "404 Not Found".

And then there was the one that had legit titles and descriptions, but all the links went to the same page on another domain. The email bragged about a PR5, but the links page was unranked. I actually took the time to respond with a "what kind of idiot do you think I am?" message.

SoleDrag




msg:737878
 3:04 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

EFV

I'm confused, isn't "getting links" still decent SEO? Or am I missing something? Link farms and such are bad, obviously, but are relevant link exchanges bad?

europeforvisitors




msg:737879
 3:52 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

EFV
I'm confused, isn't "getting links" still decent SEO? Or am I missing something? Link farms and such are bad, obviously, but are relevant link exchanges bad?

I have trouble understanding what's relevant about a link from a European travel-planning site to a real-estate broker's site in the Dominican Republic, but maybe I'm missing something. (How do you keep them down on their link farm in Santo Domingo when you're writing about Paree?)

And yes, maybe "getting links" is still decent SEO (I don't claim to be an expert), but one would think the person doing the SEO might take a hint from the paragraph on the "Contact us" page that explicitly says: "We aren't interested in 'reciprocal linking' or 'link exchanges'--we link for editorial reasons, not to boost rankings in search engines."

Side note: In addition to lecturing me on the PR benefits of link exchanges, a number of the recent linkee wannabes have provided the annotation text that they wanted me to use. Some have even included logos. Next they'll be trying to charge me for the privilege of linking to them. :-)

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