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Page Jacking Article by WebmasterWorld Member
Brett_Tabke




msg:738593
 3:05 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Very nice story by Kpaul.
[kuro5hin.org...]

 

walkman




msg:738594
 3:24 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

is this (pagejacking) still going on?

mfishy




msg:738595
 4:15 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yah, still going more than ever.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:738596
 4:29 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just tried this and found a site that is carrying my site under its header but all the contact links, etc, appear to be still pointing to my site and the Adsense code is mine.

I am afraid that I don't know much about this problem. Can anyone tell me if I have been highjacked? The site in question displays the following in their address bar.

http ://www.theirdomain.com/scripts/theirfolder/their.cgi?cfg=theircfg&url=www.mydomainname.co.uk/

Tropical Island




msg:738597
 4:30 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nice summary Kpaul.

Also a very nice example of how to word your lead in with SEO in mind. Not obvious to the casual reader but covers all the bases - again well done.

kpaul




msg:738598
 4:31 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

thanks. it was directed to a non-SEO audience too, which is why some of it may have seem over simplified.

le_gber




msg:738599
 7:41 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

so that's why my site disapeared from the search engines!

I had an old domain name which I couldn't rank in Google - bought a new one, did all the 301 thingy for 2 years but removed it a couple of weeks ago and site went soon afterwards (used to be 2nd for my company name).

I did the allinurl:mydomain and sure enough 2 pages of the old site crawled up in the results.

I will put back the 301 and if my 'new' site reapears I'll let you know :)

Thanks Kpaul

Leo

crobb305




msg:738600
 11:33 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

My site still suffering from this problem. Using the site:mysite.com search shows several urls that are not mine. I emailed Google starting last October. No resolution. At one point, there were over 100 redirects to my site, some deliberate hijacking efforts.

In Google's defense, it does appear that the tracker2s that many have said were the root of their hijacking problems, are disappearing from the Google index. In November, over 400,000 were indexed, today, only 35,000. So, MAYBE they are slowly addressing the redirect problems.

C

zeus




msg:738601
 1:37 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I always think what could be googles problem why can they not fix it, there are some big sites missing and those redireting sites are for sure not what google would see replacing the original.

Would it be a problem if they ignored redircts, I mean that it does not work in there system, I never used redirecting, also not when I moved a site or domain and If I may say the site is not unknown.

Anyway they must have a solution soon for this, it can not bee that the whole google has to be of fake directories and redireting sites.

Googleguy I know you can not reply so often because of you are now a public company, but I sure hope you are working on this, thanks

zeus

P.s Brett thanks for the link and Im not sure if you have any trouble in this issue, but I have seen a few site redireting to webmasterworld in the bad way, just a note.

muesli




msg:738602
 4:20 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

a friend of mine made ~800 euros a month due to this bug during some months last year. his site showed up #1 for the keyword "amazon" on google austria, displaying the amazon.de-description and title and redirecting to amazon using his affiliate link.

moderators: i hope it's OK to name specifics in this case as it's amazon. if not, kindly edit.

foxtunes




msg:738603
 11:59 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Interesting...Thanks.

Phil_S




msg:738604
 10:50 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

So what are you suppose to do if this happens to you?
He says email google and other post about this topic say they have with no results.

Anyway to block this from happening to a site?

I see this with my site. Maybe this is why we lost a lot of placement.

jantham




msg:738605
 7:35 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think I want to cry.

I did a allinurl

Results 1 - 10 of about 4,390 for allinurl:mysite.com

No wonder my traffic from google vanished. I used to get plenty of traffic from google, now it is down to 50 visits a week and falling.

How do you deal with >4,000 hijacks?

nippi




msg:738606
 8:27 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

hijack the hijacker

incrediBILL




msg:738607
 8:34 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

How do you deal with >4,000 hijacks?

One at a time.

flyerguy




msg:738608
 10:17 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

so that's why my site disapeared from the search engines!

Don't rely on this theory alone.

My site using a one-of-a-kind unique name doesn't show up in the first 100 G entries. References from a myriad of quality sources, blog indexes, reviews of the site, etc. but Google will not let someone find my site by typing in the name directly.

I checked, and I have nothing fishy in the allinurl: command, only a few blog indexes pointing to my site.

In addition, 2 year rock steady number one keyword phrase for the site dropped out of the continuum, right out of the ballpark. Doesn't matter that the site is an authority in the sector with the 17 of the first 20 listings being ABOUT my site, for some reason Googles algo has punished us.

SO. There are many ways Google could have screwed you recently, not just this one redirect problem.

steveb




msg:738609
 7:35 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

flyerguy, what you describe is 99% likely a hijack issue. allinurl often/usually doesn't show the evidence of the pagejacking, but you can always see it by checking the the way all sites link to you.

zeus




msg:738610
 7:45 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I go after site that have my title and description in a inurl:www.mydomain.com - if you have succes in removine one or 2 the site will be listed for month with the hijacker cache, said said that it has to end like this.

I just say one thing remove all sites with a redirecting scripts.

Rugles




msg:738611
 7:48 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention again. I used to check for this but had not done so in a long time.
I too am being hijacked on one page and just sent a threatening email.

IRWINjim




msg:738612
 8:10 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've seen this 'page jacking' also occur with just simple javascript redirects.

I was actually using a redirect page to send visitors to a new site. The redirect page was used to track usage.

Lo and behold, the pages I was sending visitors to ended up high in the results for my terms.

Oh well. Live and learn

everlast




msg:738613
 9:15 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi. My traffic and serps have slowly been draining away over the past year. I had many tops 10 keywords. With Allegra I lost over 150 keywords and have only 5 from 0 - 150 in serps. I do everything legal. No Black Hat.

I am wondering about this redirect thing. I entered my site name "mmmmmm antiques"
and my home page and pages do not show up. But this kinda of stuff shows up with MY descriptions!

"sewing buttons
... Vintage Sewing Buttons. Welcome to Mmmmmm Vintage Sewing Buttons Page --
Mmmmmmm's is a Minneapolis ... www.mmmmmmm, Sewing Buttons ...
sewing-buttons.sewing-directory.biz/ - 19k - Cached - Similar pages"

From what I have read I don't think you would consider this a redirect, but is this practice of dircetories pulling this kind of information draining my serps?

Rugles




msg:738614
 10:00 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

My pagejacker is fixing the problem. He claimed he is doing nothing wrong, but will fix the problem anyways. I think he is afraid I will rat him out to google because he has adsense on the website in question.

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