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Google's own page rank
Ouroboros




msg:751950
 12:15 am on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this here, but Google's own page rank has dropped. Now, www.google.com has a page rank of 9/10, and news.google.com has a rank of 7/10.

Heck, if Google can't even achieve 10/10, what chance do YOU have?!

 

vitaplease




msg:751951
 7:38 am on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Are you sure you are not being redirected to a local (less "important" :) )Google?

lbobke




msg:751952
 9:25 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see the same here: Google.com:9, Yahoo.com:10.

BillyS




msg:751953
 9:59 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see that same. google at 9, yahoo at 10. More interesting stuff as the shuffle continues.

internetheaven




msg:751954
 10:17 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google 10 Yahoo 10 here in the UK.

Chris_D




msg:751955
 12:16 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe Google has just lost the PR benefits of all its spammy blog posts due to the introduction of the 'nofollow' attribute!

:)

martinibuster




msg:751956
 12:33 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google.com is PR 9. The About Google [google.com] page is PR 10.
Oh, must be LSI. ;)

gmiller




msg:751957
 12:45 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

At least we know they aren't rigging the PR calculations. ;)

I'm waiting for someone to post a message claiming it's an attempt to make more money on AdWords somehow.

AndyA




msg:751958
 12:58 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

At least we know they aren't rigging the PR calculations. ;)

I dunno. For relevancy, the importance of Google right now is about a PR 2. Things just aren't right.

A long-time Google searcher told me this afternoon that they couldn't use Google anymore, it was just too frustrating. They weren't finding ANYTHING that they were searching for. This person isn't a webmaster, and doesn't even have a website, but they are online a lot, and they do buy a lot of stuff online.

They went to MSN and found exactly what they were looking for in the #2 position. I think MSN has a new fan, now. It will be difficult for Google to get these people back, as she changed her homepage from Google to MSN right there on the spot...

One down...how many more people will Google let get away before they get this fiasco fixed?

Andy

steveb




msg:751959
 1:56 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

PR10 here.

hutcheson




msg:751960
 2:59 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Oh, this is a self-correcting problem. As soon as the affiliate spammers see enough interest in Microsoft search to focus on it -- and it's from all accounts much easier to manipulate artificially -- then those results will tank (even further than now, and yes, it is possible.)

It is and will probably forevermore be futile to search for <a spammy phrase> at any search engine. You'll get tens of thousands of affiliate doorways for every single site for a real <widget>. That situation won't change: because it's a distributed denial-of-service attack (kind of like a zillion ants looking for holes in a screen door) no fixed or automatic defenses will last long. And the same thing is probably true for almost any common search term (with diminishing probability almost perfectly linear against frequency of search) -- because there are tools that allow spammers to pick any search terms for which it's not yet true.

[edited by: ciml at 4:12 pm (utc) on Feb. 12, 2005]

Chico_Loco




msg:751961
 3:11 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Damn - wrong thread - 2nd time this week. Sorry!

rfgdxm1




msg:751962
 5:07 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

>Google.com is PR 9. The About Google page is PR 10.
Oh, must be LSI.

HUH? That page here is PR8. Locally google.com redirects server side to www.google.com, and is PR10.

incrediBILL




msg:751963
 5:30 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is an incredible earth-shattering moment for me......

The first time since I've joined that people are posting about PR without whining, cursing and crying.

[faints]

larryhatch




msg:751964
 7:32 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

What Google needs to do is add quality content, and seek more good inbound links.

They could be PR-10 in no time.

Imaster




msg:751965
 9:28 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just linked them from my site. The next PR update would be an eye-catcher for them :D

muesli




msg:751966
 12:23 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

google 10, yahoo 10, about-page 8.
austria.

Tropical Island




msg:751967
 12:41 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google.com (eng) 10
About 8

Venezuela

risto




msg:751968
 12:54 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google.com (eng) 10
About 8

Finland

Kangol




msg:751969
 1:16 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a PR9. Still I would exchange links with them, I'll mail them for a link exchange and see if they are interested :)

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