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Is it possible to exclude adsense sites from the search
I have been search for 1 hour now, cant find what im looking for.
zeus




msg:725991
 1:08 am on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is it possible to exclude adsense sites from the search results, like when you do a search for bla bla -buy -shop (then -adsense?) this doessent work, is there another way, I just get to much crap sites and most of those does have adsense, so I wanted to exclude that from the search, to get my free example (non product for sale) im looking for.

 

europeforvisitors




msg:725992
 1:41 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you could exclude pages with AdSense from your search, you'd eliminate some of the best information sources on the Web. (Heck, I'd be tempted to ask for a way to block pages with interstitials or skyscrapers for dating services, but then I'd miss out on good articles at sites like Forbes.com and Washingtonpost.com!)

nuevojefe




msg:725993
 1:44 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

check dmoz.

hutcheson




msg:725994
 2:12 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd think if you're searching for shopping, Google search is the wrong hammer anyway. [specific examples omitted: forum rules, but the proper site for general kitsch, books, scalped tickets, used items, new books, etc. is left as an exercise for the surfer]. But general search does a much poorer job than any shopping-specific technique. And sites catering to intelligent surfers (I know, I know....) will be working with the specialized databases, not SERPing Google.

Therefore there's no reason to create sophisticated search tools for Google shopping searches -- sophisticated searchers aren't going to be using them, they'll be off searching elsewhere.

decaff




msg:725995
 2:34 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

most of the adsense sites I come across are full of garbage content meant to spam the engines.. useful? please...

arubicus




msg:725996
 3:55 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Much of the shopping sites is a load of crap just trying to spam the index also. They want to push their product in every way using crap information articles/long copy just to rank for any term related that they can bump a sale or two. This is just as bad as any adsense site. It is all about the bling. Granted there is yet TONS of adsense sites with great information (EPV's site for one). Many of the spam crap and poor information sites you refer to were that way before the birth of Adsense (sad that now they get paid a good deal to keep them going). Yet I do agree that the ease of use and quick money using adsense is WAY to tempting for anyone not to push out sites right and left regardless of the content. I sometimes have to keep the ol greed at bay myself. I believe firmly that VALUE will win in the end but I understand that VALUE IS subjective. It may be crap to you but gold to someone else.

europeforvisitors




msg:725997
 4:05 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

most of the adsense sites I come across are full of garbage content meant to spam the engines.. useful? please...

Well, I happen to think that THE NEW YORK TIMES and the WASHINGTON POST are pretty useful. NEWSWEEK (at msnbc.com) has some good content, too. To be sure, AdSense ads are also on scraper directories and other throwaway sites, but so what? You might as well describe major newspapers as "crap sites" because they run the same dating-service display ads that get distributed all over the Web by ad networks. If most of the sites with AdSense ads that you see are full of "garbage content," then maybe you just need to get your eyes out of the gutter. :-)

steve40




msg:725998
 4:21 am on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Zeus
I seem to remember last year you were an adsense publisher who decided to leave adsense due to the poor income you recieved I presume you have a found a better alternative for income.
I happen to agree that there are to many made for adsense sites appearing in the serps and many are just thrown up to create quick bucks for their owners
But i also believe and hope G should and will address this issue by looking at the long term for the continued growth of adwords / adsense and start to run some form quality controll.
But it is wrong to tar all sites with the same brush many many many sites existed long before it was easy to moniterise and just because they now display adsense should not define them as being CR?

steve

BigUns




msg:725999
 4:07 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Zeus:

If I interpret your question correctly, perhaps adding something like this to the search box will help...

-"Ads by G"

ciml




msg:726000
 4:19 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

BigUns, that will exclude pages that talk about AdSense, not pages with AdSense.

If we take three or four seconds to look at the client code for AdSense we'll realise that there's no matching search string.

theBear




msg:726001
 6:24 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Zeus could ask Google for an AdSense filtering option.

Wonder what they would say ;).

BigUns




msg:726002
 4:59 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

ciml said: "that will exclude pages that talk about AdSense ..."

If "we" take three or four seconds to look at the results of a search for the word adsense with and without the negated string, you will see that the same top ten results - Google dominated, of course, are in the SERP. These pages that merely talk about AdSense are certainly not excluded. Further, there are a variety of negated strings, shorter and longer, which do have some degree of effect in excluding pages with ads. Whether zeus finds these useful is his judgement call. I was merely trying to point zeus in a possibly useful direction; contrast that with the people trying to convince zeus he doesn't want to do what he clearly DOES want to do, and never even attempt to answer the original question.

zeus




msg:726003
 5:14 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

steve40 - Yes I droped adsense some time ago, but I dont say adsense is bad, they just dont work for me.

The problem was that when I search for some business doc. I kept getting those scrapers/directories and all the sites I look through had adsense and then I would try to eclude that in the search, but it diddent work.

I think that was the best way to get a clean result.

thanks everyone

ciml




msg:726004
 5:31 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

> These pages that merely talk about AdSense are certainly not excluded.

Agreed, the suggested exclusion will only exclude some pages that talk about AdSense. The exclusion doesn't distinguish whether a page runs AdSense.

Please take a look the AdSense code that webmasters add to their pages. This will help to clarify the matter.

zeus




msg:726005
 12:11 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Its incredible all this talk about advance search engine google, but a site I have been watching for years be cause it is in my category, has always had text with same color as the background, now today I saw they also have adsense, you must admit its a little funny.

suidas




msg:726006
 12:29 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, I think this issue is moot. Google is not going to provide a way to filter out sites that make them revenue. I don't think that Yahoo or Microsoft could explicitly do so either, although they could have a general anti-commercial search. Zeal has such a rule, although the mere presence of Adsense doesn't usually preclude Zeal inclusion.

Meanwhile, it's a sad shame how many empty, useless, spammy Adsense sites there are. They not only make searching harder, they hurt the good Adsense sites, like EFV's and mine.

I wish Google would smite them. The same goes for all those Amazon scrapers. Smite them good.

suidas




msg:726007
 12:31 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, I think this issue is moot. Google is not going to provide a way to filter out sites that make them revenue. I don't think that Yahoo or Microsoft could explicitly do so either, although they could have a general anti-commercial search. Zeal has such a rule, although the mere presence of Adsense doesn't usually preclude Zeal inclusion.

Meanwhile, it's a sad shame how many empty, useless, spammy Adsense sites there are. They not only make searching harder, they hurt the good Adsense sites, like EFV's and mine.

I wish Google would smite them.

Rollo




msg:726008
 12:41 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wish it were, but not a chance... I think a better question, given Google's current resutls, would be: "Is it possible to sucessfully spam without adsense ads on your webites?"

It doesn't look like it to me... ;-)

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