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G indexes some, but not others.
vc181200




msg:713020
 3:46 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

Interesting question:

If you are doing a page with a large amount of intenral links (approx 100). Google indexes this page, but will not index all of the internal links. A few are indexed, the rest are not. We have been adding internal links to this page for a week, does that impact indexing?

The question is: are they putting me in the sandbox due to the amount of links?

anyone been through this similar issue?

 

diamondgrl




msg:713021
 1:14 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

It takes some time for Google and other to spider pages and then to index them. It sounds like you've had many of these links for just a few days. Have a little patience.

If weeks go by and nothing happens, it would be more troubling.

vc181200




msg:713022
 3:58 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Will too many internal site links hurt my PR on my Index page?

Thank you,
VC

ken_b




msg:713023
 4:12 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Will too many internal site links hurt my PR?

No. It shouldn't have a negative effect on your PR overall. Carefully choosing which links to put on which pages can affect the PR flow around your site though.

Google suggests limiting the number of links on a page to 100 if I recall right. They also only index the first 101k (not including images) of your source code. So it might be possible with really large pages to end up with links beyond the limits. Those links might have trouble getting indexed. That might be more likely if you put the page up for the first time with over 100 links on it.

diamondgrl




msg:713024
 4:14 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, any link from a page bleeds PR from that page to the one being linked to. But that is usually a very good thing when you are talking about internal links, especially from the home page.

For most sites, the pages that are most likely to draw the attention of search engines are not the home pages of sites but the ones that are more specific, such as a product page or a page of text about a theme. So you want your PR to bleed to those specific, thematic pages.

vc181200




msg:713025
 4:24 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, I have a PR6 index page. I want spacific product pages to be a PR5. I will be linking each product to the index page. What I am concearned with, does the amount of site links from the index page affect the pr of the index page. If I were to add 20 product links to the index page am I going to lose PR on the Index page?

trying to get more spacific,

Thanx

[edited by: vc181200 at 4:30 pm (utc) on Feb. 1, 2005]

walrus




msg:713026
 4:25 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

<They also only index the first 101k (not including images) of your source code.>

Do you know if it also ignores inline css or java in the body of the page, or can they intefere with a crawl if they are part of that first 101k.

inbound




msg:713027
 12:35 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

O.K. a PR 6 index page and you want 20 PR 5 pages from it:

There isn't an accurate measure of how much PR it takes to get up a level but I've always assumed it to be logarithmic and use 10 as the multiplier, this fits well with any modeling I have done but you can never be sure.

So, if we assume that a PR 6 page needs 10x more PR than a PR5 then we can assume that you should be able to pass on a PR 5 to at least 10 pages by simply putting only 10 links on the page.

However, there is an additional factor. You can have the case where your index page is a high PR6, with anything up to 99.99 times as much PR as a base level PR5 (or base^2 -.01: base5 would give up to 25 times the base PR5 score), there may be dampening factors but that is a rough approximation of how I see it working.

If your site needs to pass a PR5 to 20 pages then you may have enough with a PR6, I would not be too concerned with the PR being passed anyway as the link structure of the site is more important, make sure this is good for the user to navigate and the benfits will show.

For example, if you have 20 pages you want to rank but they are in 4 specific areas then 4 links from the homepage with good descriptive paragraphs should do better for you than simply 20 links. On the 4 category pages you should have the 5 links to each page with another good bit of text for each, this gives the link some context and thus more weight

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