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Brett_Tabke




msg:155224
 9:44 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)
While speaking today, Daniel Dulitz of Google said the update will happen within 48 hrs and that is as specific as he will get.

left to right: Daniel Dulitz (Google), Jonathan Glick (Altavista), Paul Gardi (Ask Jeeves/ Teoma), Vish Makhijani (Inktomi), Steve Gemignani (Looksmart/Wisenut), Tim Mayer (Fast/AllTheWeb). At the podium - Chris Sherman of Search Day fame. Photo by WebmasterWorld.com - all rights reserved.

 

Thomas




msg:155284
 11:19 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I knew you were no mind reader Shaq.

I would never ask his mom for update information.

Probably better off asking his x-wife...:)

Disclosure: This posting is considered humor. Information within this posting is not real and for dramatic/humor purposes only. Additionally, the writer of this posting is highly medication and not a coherent representive of the company he works for. And can easily fired on request.

allanp73




msg:155285
 11:42 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Brett for the info...
Now I only have to stay awake for another 48 hours. Wasn't that a movie? :)

rfgdxm1




msg:155286
 11:57 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

What surprises me from that picture is representatives from the 5 largest search engine were sitting next to each other, and they all managed to walk away with nobody getting a knife in the back. ;)

ramitheweb




msg:155287
 12:10 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Mr. Brett for the info...

Janetteddy




msg:155288
 12:12 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thank you Brett so much, thats a big relief as two of my sites went down and they are working feverishly on them now.....whew.....under the wire ....

troels nybo nielsen




msg:155289
 12:16 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Janeteddy.

Relax. The critical moment for your server will be the deepcrawl, most likely to start just after the dance.

skipfactor




msg:155290
 12:19 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Unprecedented announcement? Could all of our whining have something to do with this? That would be a trip.

GoogleGuy




msg:155291
 12:20 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hmmm. Do you notice GoogleGuy never posts while Daniel Dulitz is in the room? ;)

rfgdxm1




msg:155292
 12:25 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

In that case Daniel, err...GoogleGuy why don't you tell us the exact minute the update will happen? ;)

greenspan




msg:155293
 12:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

don't all of the search engine guys look the same :¦

hamster77




msg:155294
 12:39 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I thought so too... certain amount of cloning going on?

Well, something's twitching in Google-land 'coz our shiny-new sites that had unexpectedly appeared in Google have just fallen out again. That's a couple of grumpy 'phone calls I can see heading my way tomorrow morning... sigh

GoogleGuy




msg:155295
 12:41 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice try, rfgdxm1. ;)

Helpmebe1




msg:155296
 12:42 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wow.. We no longer have to call googleguy, googleguy.. we have a name! Drum roll folks.. tatatat (that is supposed to be a drum roll)

kevinpate




msg:155297
 12:50 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

> Is Tim Mayer (Fast/AllTheWeb) falling off his chair? ;)

Hey, weren't you falling off your chair in the exact moment you read about the 48 hour warning/notice/announcement?

Why should that guy be immune? 8^)

Anyone else having thoughts back to Babe Ruth calling his shot?

chycco




msg:155298
 12:52 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Let me bet: 6-7 a.m. of 6 of march (today) Spanish hour? ;)

Helpmebe1




msg:155299
 12:52 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

He saw the offer OV made to buy them out and was sick to his stomach! :)

werty




msg:155300
 12:56 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

just in time for the weekend... yippeee...

however i am dreading the results...they could not be improved on from the last dance...

rfgdxm1




msg:155301
 1:09 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Nice try, rfgdxm1. ;)

I wasn't asking for me, but for the sanity of the others that post here. To be honest, at the moment I am dreading your update as most of the potential my sites have in Google is in the direction of down. If you want to postpone the update for a month or 2, you have my blessing. Unless of course I'll get #1 on that one SERP I have been hoping for. In that case, bring on the update. ;)

EliteWeb




msg:155302
 1:09 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice very nice photo :D Nice alignment of SE people.

netguy




msg:155303
 12:21 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Now that Brett has put our minds at ease for a due date, what do the best minds out there expect from the 'dance.'

It is my understanding that it is basicly crunching the previous deep-crawl numbers, with some input of FreshBot. Others in some of the forums say we should be looking for lots of activity on our servers during the dance period. Any input or archives to straighten me out on what I can expect?

Steve

rfgdxm1




msg:155304
 12:28 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Utter panic by the posters of WebmasterWorld. Some totally elated. Some threatening to slash their wrists. And, Webmasters worldwide furiously updating their HTML and FTPing it up to the server before the Google deep crawler comes by.

netguy




msg:155305
 12:30 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

LOL... I assume you are saying it's not just number crunching, but lots more deep crawls during the dance.

seanetal




msg:155306
 12:32 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'll admit it... I was one of those churning out a few more articles to post before the update. But I can stop anytime I want... really!

Sean

bokesch




msg:155307
 12:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm expecting an increase in size. =)

annej




msg:155308
 12:35 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

it is basicly crunching the previous deep-crawl numbers, with some input of FreshBot

My impression is that the update does not include info from the freshbot. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Also, just checking, the deep crawl is after the dance isn't it? I thought it was a few days after last time.

Thanks,

Anne

netguy




msg:155309
 12:42 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I guess the question in a nutshell is...

Is the dance taking prior information to determine ranking after the dance - or is there an active deep crawl to be expected DURING the dance - to derive the ending results.

Thanks,
Steve

kovacs




msg:155310
 12:45 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

This update will be based on last month's deep crawl data. The March deep crawl will begin after the update is over, and that data will be used for the next update (at the end of March or thereabouts).

troels nybo nielsen




msg:155311
 12:47 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Anne, at the last dance I had some pages indexed, that had been uploaded -- and found by freshbot -- AFTER the deepcrawl.

netguy




msg:155312
 12:48 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Kovacs... so there is no need to worry about racing things to the server (or leaving it alone) since the previous data will be used - the servers will not be touched by Google through the dance period.

hmmm... with Kovac and Troels, the consensus seems to be prior Deep Crawl data with some FreshBot data to run the calcs through the dance.

[edited by: netguy at 12:51 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2003]

Tartan75




msg:155313
 12:49 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

troels,
do you know these were the included as part of the dance, or were they included imediately after the dance through normal freshbot activities?

troels nybo nielsen




msg:155314
 12:54 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Tartan, those pages were in the SERPs before the dance and all the way through the dance. Only their positions were changing during the dance.

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