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msg:115280
 11:33 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was approached by a company that claims they get 7 million users by crosslinking over 600 sites.

[edited by: heini at 11:39 pm (utc) on Mar. 3, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls please / thanks [/edit]

 

netguy




msg:115281
 11:37 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Spend a few moments reading the 'horror' stories in this forum, and you will soon think differently.

Hefner




msg:115282
 11:37 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

7 million a month?
7 million in total?
7 million per day?

why aren't they being more specific? Ohhh because they want to sell you traffic at high cpc prices probably. gotcha!

bjseiler




msg:115283
 11:58 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I saw the link before it got clipped and went through their site. People can say cross linking is bad news, but every site I clicked on was PR6 or PR7. I think they must be doing something right. As long as they don't get caught, I think they are definitely pulling in big traffic.

netguy




msg:115284
 12:01 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

It might be one to try with a new domain, but I wouldn't risk a mature website on something like that.

jady




msg:115285
 12:04 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

We get a call at least once a month from a company doing this garbage. It ended up being pop-ups that come up when a user searches for certain keywords. Best off - the user gets tricked into downloading an I.E. patch! GARBAGE!

rfgdxm1




msg:115286
 12:05 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

And just today I got several e-mails from various deposed African dictators which could make me a millionaire if I helped them. My guess is odds are one of these e-mails has a better chance of being true than what this company who approached you says. If you disagree, I can dig these e-mails out of my deleted e-mail folder and bounce them to you. ;)

hakre




msg:115287
 12:06 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Cross linking isn't spam

some people tend to use the term 'cross linking' in cases it is spam.

finditnow




msg:115288
 12:11 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

This company appears to be doing very well. They have hundreds on PR6 and PR7 domains. They also have pharma clients. Crosslinking is working for them.

kryton




msg:115289
 12:11 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

provided people use relevant keywords when they cross link, what is wrong with it? It would be an interesting poll to see who believes cross linking is spam, I don't.

rfgdxm1




msg:115290
 12:15 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

All that counts is if the Google Gods think crosslinking is spam.

rogerd




msg:115291
 12:29 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Lots of techniques work until the sites using them get caught. It all depends on your tolerance for risk, and how much you have invested in the domain name. There's another thread going now started by someone who just lost 50+ sites due to an apparent crosslinking penalty.

hakre




msg:115292
 12:35 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

yeah the discussion is really high on tide:

link exchange and cross-linking by example
a small collection of cross-linking issues by examples. please note that sometimes the term cross-linking is used for spam-sites only.


heini




msg:115293
 12:39 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

The problem with such a request/offer from a company approaching you for me is basically this: I hate to put my site's fate into another man's hands.

Being involved with other people's link schemes is something I'd personally be very cautious with.

fathom




msg:115294
 12:48 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

A wise man once said:

I hate to put my site's fate into another man's hands.

Not sure where I heard this but I'll be his grosshopper, any day and twice on Sundays. :)

bjseiler




msg:115295
 1:11 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

I doubt they put you in their mesh of sites. What they probably do is launch a popup of your site when one of their sites is hit or just redirect one of their sites to your site.

Pretty interesting business actually. I guess it is a twist on the people that snap up deleted domains and then redirect that traffic. Either system can be quite targetted and effective I think.

kryton




msg:115296
 2:13 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

What I would imagine is, if the network of cross-linked sites is good quality, then when the human from Google reviews the punishment (doesn't Google claim a human reviews all PR0 punishment cases?) they will let it be. If the network of crossed-linked sites is low grade quality mostly consisting of affilate links, then I imagine Google will ban the network.

I am correcting in thining that at the end of the day Google want to provide good results linking to quality content websites for their users?

I would be interested to know how many people with content sites who cross link have been banned, and how many with affiliate link type sites have been banned for cross linking?

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