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What the update does and doesn't do?
trying to sort out when I'll get credit for new backlinks

 12:09 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

My site has collected a number of new incoming links since the last update. My impression is that the update is the only time backlinks are updated. Now here is the part I am not clear about.

Will only new links added before the deep crawl make it into the coming update or does Google pick up some new links with the freshbot?

I'd be interested to other aspects of what the update does and doesn't do. It's obvious to me that the major resetting of where a site comes out in the serps with a given key word or phrase is set during the update. But there still seems to be minor changes during the month I assume from freshbot results. I'm thinking it is mostly from changes in keywords, words in the title and such.

As far as I can tell the update is the only time PR changes.

Does anyone have information that would give a clearer picture of what changes with the update and what can change during the rest of the month?

Thanks for any help.


>the usual typo edit<



 12:15 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

If the links came this month, you won't really have a chance to see them until NEXT month.

1) You get the link.
2) You wait for the Deep Crawler to find them
3) At the end of the month where the Deep Crawler finds them, then you get the credit during that update.

Freshbot, as far as I know, doesn't convey link information. It doesn't really seem to talk to DeepBot at all - though this month has been weird, so that may be changing(?).

General rule of thumb - Get a link, wait 40-60 days.

When it comes right down to it, though, it's not really going to rock your world when you DO get the credit. It won't hurt anything, but a dozen or so links doesn't make any huge jumps in the results.

Hope this helps.



 2:55 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, a dozen or so might not make much difference (depending on PR of the linking pages, I guess), I'm waiting for the update following this one to see the difference a hundred+ new and changed links will make.

We're an educational department that had hundreds of links pointing to an old site. The old site was run by a volunteer who moved away and has since not been cooperative in making changes / placing redirects. So, I've had to contact the webmasters individually and ask them to update. Fun!

The worst part is waiting for two Google updates. ;-)


 5:00 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Several of my links came through before the deep crawl so there is some hope. The others it will be the usual long wait.

As far as numbers of links are concerned I find a couple of dozen links do make a difference. I think the big plus is that I have really been emphasizing that I want people to use my title as the text in the link. The 3 word title includes the search word I am trying to get up in the serps. I think there really is something to the theory that the text used in the link makes a big difference.



 5:06 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

When it comes right down to it, though, it's not really going to rock your world when you DO get the credit. It won't hurt anything, but a dozen or so links doesn't make any huge jumps in the results.

If you have only a dozen links to start with an additional dozen will help alot. There are still some profitable not very competitive keywords out there. I currently have five sites with fewer than fifty external backlinks (total, not just Google's), some with less than ten. Get one good link with proper anchor text before you get ten off topic links with your url as the link text.


 10:16 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, right now I have 276 back links on the site that I am working on optimizing. But I haven't counted how many are really outside links. Is there an easy way to see just the links from other sites?

Anyway maybe I am being too hopeful that a couple dozen new links will help. I have made sure all the links are related and that kind of limits me on getting mass linking. I'm hoping the fact that pretty much all of them will have the right link text will help make the difference.


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