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Title Length
shorter the better?
jamesyap




msg:184738
 5:25 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Any comments and experience?

 

Nick_W




msg:184739
 5:27 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

No more than 40 chars. Just my presonal take, there are better qualified folks here that I'm sure will comment ;)

Nick

jamesyap




msg:184740
 6:52 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

40 charaters means only 5-6 words!

Nick_W




msg:184741
 6:54 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes.

Mohamed_E




msg:184742
 6:56 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

> 40 charaters means only 5-6 words!

Many here have suggested somewhat more, say 60 or so characters. But yes, the title must be brief and target the most important key phrase. It should be a title, not a mini-essay!

hightraffic10




msg:184743
 7:21 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I use between 6 to 8 words and target only 2 maybe 3 keyword phrases.

TWhalen




msg:184744
 7:40 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Think short newspaper headline. Target your keyword, but try to also illicit response from user by eniticing them to click through to learn more. Those type always seem to work best for me.

Ex:
Keyword1 attacks Tokyo, Keyword2 runs in fear!

jamesyap




msg:184745
 7:47 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

The main concern is DO using less words in title, maybe 3 words increase the weight on the keywords when a search is done? ... as compare to a title with the same 3 words + more words.

hightraffic10




msg:184746
 7:50 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think it all depends on what keyword(s) you are going after. All are different, if really are going after one or 2 keywords just use them. But in the same aspect I have a title tag that is 8 words and it is killer. I rank for almost every combination. Every keyword is different.

AgentSmith




msg:184747
 8:05 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I set a limit to 65 characters (space included). My reason for doing is that I don't want my titles to get cut off at Google SERP. I'd hate to see my title looking like this -> Something about my compa...
I tend to agree on the concept of targeting 2 to 3 phrases in title.

Before anything else though, title should be concisely descriptive - with focus on value proposition - especially for the commerce sites. Title is a major determinate factor for on-SERP conversion.

Using search term: 'books' as an example...

I'd go for something more like this:
(company name): promotion (ex. Free Shipping on New and Used Books)

in comparison to:
(company name): Used, New, Out-of-Print, etc.

<-- End of my mumble -->

diddlydazz




msg:184748
 8:16 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I keep to 68 chars to avoid being truncated by Google ;o)

As mentioned, it is MORE important to make your title sound attractive to potential visitors, there is no point being NO 1 for a keyword if no-one clicks on it.

Just my 2p worth

Dazz

fathom




msg:184749
 8:25 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I tend to develop high level pages with 2 or 3 words and low level pages with 4 or 5 words in the title.

In addition, anchors to high level pages are normal 1 word or a two word keyphrase (consistent with those in the title) where lower level pages (or more focused topics) get longer anchors to match the longer titles.

jamesyap




msg:184750
 5:32 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

1. How about CASE? You can make a title more attractive by capitalizing some of the attactive words. DO you do that?

2. Google start cutting my title when I have only 64 characters. Are you sure you can put more in!

pendanticist




msg:184751
 5:48 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Title tags and me...(am I alone?) :-/ [webmasterworld.com] is my take on Title Tag length - with an informative article posted by rjohara: Jakob Nielsen's "Microcontent: How to Write Headlines, Page Titles, and Subject Line"

Pendanticist.

johnraphone




msg:184752
 7:03 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I dont know, I see results with some long titles (over 10 words) and some titles with 2 or 3 words all the time. But I would say if your page is about "Blue Wigits with Red Upgrade" but you put "Blue Wigits" then your not really efficiently doing it. And don't suff with keywords, its ugly, spammy, and users find it confusing.

cwebb




msg:184753
 1:33 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google indexes up to about 80 chars, but the fewer words, the more weight is put on those:

"blue widgets" works better for a search on "blue widgets" than "blue widgets - red widgets"

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