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soapystar

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Msg#: 9489 posted 11:06 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

looking at a phrase search on google (using the dmoz description text).. sites in dmoz show up in even though the google directory doesnt list the site...so...as the dmoz is freshly spidered by google..do you think google factors into the algo the pages it has spidered though not entered into its directory?..in other words even though a site is google directory listed..is it still treated as though it was because google see's its listed on a spider crawl of dmoz?

 

budterm

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Msg#: 9489 posted 12:47 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

soapystar:

A link from DMOZ is just that... a link. As soon as Google reports it under a search for link:yoururl, you can be sure that Google has incorporated the benefits (PR, etc.) into its algo.

As far as I know, it is the same for the link from the Google directory... it is still a link. (Nice bonus to get two links for the price of one!)

flatware

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Msg#: 9489 posted 1:41 am on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

As far as know, DMOZ has solved it's problem, but Google didn't update it's directory data which is from DMOZ for a long time, why?

I submitted a site one month ago, it isn't added into Google yet till today, is there anybody tell me, how long a new site will be added?

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 9489 posted 1:51 am on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Right. Check backlinks on Google. ODP listings are easy to find, proving they spider the ODP. And to flatware, the ODP didn't get a new RDF out until about a week ago. Google just hasn't got around to updating. My guess is that Google will do so very soon. Google does link to their directory on the home page, and a directory with lots of dead links doesn't exactly make Google seem "cutting edge".

Robski

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Msg#: 9489 posted 4:52 am on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Flatware don't sweat it! I've been waiting for google to update their directory for what seems like over half a year now and still nothing. Not to gripe on anyone but Googleguy seems to be answering many questions on many different subjects however he's never willing to touch this one. Google is supposed to be so concerned with providing the most relevant and up to date content yet from the way it appears they don't even care about their directory. I wonder why they make all these new toys such as the directory, groups and news tabs if later they don't even put effort into maintaining them properly. I can't say for others but it is precisely this sort of thing (meaning stale content for long durations) that turns me off to any website.

danielm

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Msg#: 9489 posted 5:10 am on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, if it seems like half a year, that's because it has been that long. ;-)

Google Directory relies on an output of the directory created by dmoz.org (the Open Directory Project - ODP) as has been said previously. It's only been a week and a bit since ODP was able to properly output its directory so that Google (and others) can import it. The previous output was from six months ago.

Google may or may not incorporate the new output into its next indexing - I suspect it will, but I also suspect that it will mean the next indexing is delayed. As others have mentioned, there is a theory that Google has been decreasing the importance of the Google Directory in its algorithms because of the staleness. When the fresh data from ODP is incorporated , it is thought more weight will once again be placed on the directory. Of course, that is all supposition.

So, no worries. It may or may not happen for the next indexing, but it will almost certainly be incorporated into the end of March (roughly) indexing.

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 9489 posted 6:04 am on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

That this new RDF is just a week old means Google is hardly slow in updating.

flatware

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Msg#: 9489 posted 3:05 pm on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks very much for your all kind suggestion.

Is there any confidential information about DMOZ which is owned by TIMES & AOL, it is said the problem of RDF had been settled early Jan of this year, and can be output normally.

in the other side, the RDF question will be settled by immediatelly if DMOZ project is not free. You suppose what is the future of DMOZ?

From the March, YAHOO will buy INKTOMI, Google data will continue to be used by Yahoo at that time?

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