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Google visit after hitting voting buttons on toolbar
Bio4ce




msg:150043
 5:15 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I figured out what the vote buttons do. I have a new site with absolutely no incoming links. No visitors at all. After it was complete, I hit the vote buttons, and the googlebot (deepcrawler) was at my site within 30 minutes. I tried it a couple of times and it worked without fail. Everytime the googlebot visited a short time later.

Keep in mind, this was a new site.

I tried it with my existing site that is already indexed, and it didn't work.

Thought it was pretty neat though. I don't know if this has already been discussed or not.

Cheers.

:)

 

stuntdubl




msg:150044
 5:27 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

What vote button are you talking about?

Bio4ce




msg:150045
 5:29 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sorry. The vote buttons (smiley face) on the google toolbar.

:)

cheater copperpot




msg:150046
 6:16 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello Bio4ce, you know me as epf over at another forum ;) I have heard people talk about this vote button before but i dont see a smiley face on my google toolbar. I promise im not blind!

<edit>
Doh, just found it in preferences.. so back to the topic at hand. Vote Yes caused googlebot to visit your new site?

Bio4ce




msg:150047
 6:27 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

It worked for me. It was a totally new site though.

:)

Check your email too.

Hagstrom




msg:150048
 12:17 pm on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

So the Smiley button adds a site to Google.
What does the Frowney do ;)

xerxes




msg:150049
 11:36 pm on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi, I can't find the Preferences location, please. I want to find the smiley face on the toolbar also. Thanks for helping! Hope it works as people are saying!

xerxes




msg:150050
 11:52 pm on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

OK, I enabled the advanced preferences for the toolbar and now I have the smiley and the frown face. Now to start voting for my site! Thanks for the tip!

JayC




msg:150051
 12:18 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

So the Smiley button adds a site to Google.

That's kind of jumping to a conclusion isn't it? Even if it's the case that the voting button brings a googlebot visit to an unindexed site, it doesn't necessarily follow that the site is then added to the index.

Now, if Bio4ce's new site recieves no more googlebot visits between now and the next update, and then appears in the index... then I'll be with you. :)

btw, Bio4ce, was the site fully crawled, or was the visit just to the index page?

o0_cops_0o




msg:150052
 12:48 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I clicked on advanced tools, got the smiley, and voted for my site (new site not indexed) its been over 30 min and no visit from google bot yet..ill post again if i see googlebot.

Bio4ce




msg:150053
 12:49 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's been crawling all the pages since last night. The last visit was about two hours ago. I doubt it be ranked very well as it has not inbound links...yet.

:)

joker197cinque




msg:150054
 1:00 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

What kind of technique do you use to understand if GoogleBot scan your pages?

A piece of server-side code in all pages? Or what else?

thx in advance:)

fabriZio

o0_cops_0o




msg:150055
 1:05 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

ok lol 64.68.82.17 - crawler10.googlebot.com is on my site 45 minutes after hitting the vote button. but i think its because ummmmmmm google is updating, and no matter what buttons you press google will show up? just for laughs go to your car,honk your horn and see how long google bot takes to come on your site lol....you all dont know me yet...im just a clown!

nativenewyorker




msg:150056
 1:10 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

joker197cinque,

Many web hosting services offer detailed visitor stats or logs. They will indicate among other things the visitor (user-agent string), the visitor's IP address, date and time of visit, referring page/website, page requested, server code, visitor's browser and visitor's OS.

Google's web crawler is identitified by the user-agent string Googlebot/2.0 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html). You can differentiate between the monthly Googlebot spider by the IP 216.239.46.*** and the Google Freshbot spider that visits more frequently by the IP 64.68.82.** .

Ted

JayC




msg:150057
 1:20 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

but i think its because ummmmmmm google is updating, and no matter what buttons you press google will show up? just for laughs go to your car,honk your horn and see how long google bot takes to come on your site

Good point. Because the freshbot's been hitting my main site for the past couple of hours too, and I didn't hit any voting buttons. The closest I've come is reading this thread. Think there's a connection? :)

joker197cinque




msg:150058
 1:44 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

nativenewyorker

Thanks for information about IP.

I manage 2 servers and don't need support from housing farm.

I usually add a piece of code only in home page of my site(am i wrong?) and control if http_user_agent is googlebot.

Then i put the informations(ip, date, domain scanned) in a table for statistics.

I think i have to add to all pages, but when they are static(i.e .htm)?

dukeblue219




msg:150059
 2:52 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would agree that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about what the buttons do, but its not entirely like honking your horn or whatever. Google and the rest of the world had absolutely ZERO knowledge of this site before, and therefore couldn't have crawled it. By visiting the site Google was alerted to the URL and crawled it. The question I have is whether the URL is actually out there some place else and Google did follow a link, and then whether it was actually the buttons or merely visiting the site using the toolbar. There has been some discussion that visiting sites using the toolbar can alert Google to fresh URLs.

yetanotheruser




msg:150060
 2:59 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'll smilie one of our sites I know GB doesn't know.. Will let you all know if GB comes 'a visiting..

Bio4ce




msg:150061
 3:09 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I doubt it (that there was a link to the site). I think there is a site where you can check to see the history of a website. I didn't check there.

Either way, I've been working on the site for a long time and never had any visit at all. Strange that after I hit the vote button, deepcrawler(216) appears half hour later.

jdMorgan




msg:150062
 3:48 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

It has been reported in the past that just visiting a new page with the toolbar enabled (whether or not you click on the voting buttons) is enough to cause Googlebot to visit it. Hopefully, before everyone clicks the voting buttons, this can be (re)confirmed.

Jim

eaden




msg:150063
 4:19 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The toolbar -> index issue was mentioned on another post :
[webmasterworld.com...]

GoogleGuy denied that the toolbar has anything to do with getting crawled. As far as I know he has yet to admit it.
Going to come clean and let us know whats really going on?

Bio4ce




msg:150064
 5:00 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

"To the best of my knowledge". Does that mean, "I'm not sure, but I don't think it does"?

I'm pretty convinced that the smiley faces called the googlebot. Maybe I got lucky being that we are in the middle of the crawl for the next update. Maybe it doesn't happen all the time.

I just know that it happened twice. I hit the vote button, the googlebot came. I hit it again later, noting the time at 10:56. The googlebot came at 11:32.

No links, no anything. Fresh site with not a hint of visitors or bots in the entire time it was on the server...until I hit the smiley face that is.

:)

jdMorgan




msg:150065
 5:11 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Bio4ce,

My point is that it may not have been necessary to hit the vote buttons at all - just visit the site with the Google toolbar enabled. This behaviour has been previously reported, as cited in eaden's post.

I'd be interested in the results if someone could test this case again.

Jim

Bio4ce




msg:150066
 5:26 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Could be? I guess we'll never know for sure. :(

jdMorgan




msg:150067
 5:48 am on Feb 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Bio4ce,

Why not? If someone reading this thread has a new or unlinked site, they can enable the Google toolbar and visit their site... then keep an eye out for Googlebot. If it doesn't show up within - say - a few hours, then click a vote button and see if that does anything. It's just breaking down what you did into two steps.

I'm mostly just curious, since incoming links have taken care of my current needs to get indexed, and I don't have any brand-new sites to test myself. All information is good!

Jim

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