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Msg#: 9267 posted 1:53 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello guys!

This forum is the best and here are smart guys :)

My server had just one IP so domain are virtual and I had a few sites with allmost the same contents (diffrent design..etc) so is it wise to crosslinks between them?

Are google just look domain or IP + domain?

Have a nice day :)

 

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 9267 posted 2:00 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

We've done it in the past with no ill effects. But if you can afford it, host them seperately.

If you want to duplicate or make similar content (not recommended), make sure the whois record is registered to different owners.

Watch out because there's always someone ready to fill in a Google spam report. I wouldn't hesitate if I noticed duplicate content which was a pain in the backside.

Yidaki

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Msg#: 9267 posted 2:25 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

>a few sites with allmost the same contents (diffrent design..etc)

That's not only a problem with virtual hosting. You can't solve it just by using different whois records. Dublicate content is allways a bad idea.

superkid

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Msg#: 9267 posted 4:02 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been hearing people say that duplicate content is a bad idea on here for a while, and I am not one to disagree. But my question is, why? Is it bad because "ethically" it is just another form of spam, or is it bad because it actually hurts your chances of a high PR with google?

Just curious.

Yidaki

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Msg#: 9267 posted 4:09 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Is it bad because "ethically" it is just another form of
>spam, or is it bad because it actually hurts your chances
>of a high PR with google

Both!

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 9267 posted 4:18 pm on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

If Google spots duplicate content they will penalize the weaker page. i.e. the page with the lower PageRank.

Basically the penalty is obliteration. You'll stay in the index but you'll rank among the last for most queries.

Susanne

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Msg#: 9267 posted 9:55 am on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is it bad because "ethically" it is just another form of spam, or is it bad because it actually hurts your chances of a high PR with google?

It is bad because it doesn't give the user who searches in Google relevant search results. For example: when site A and site B are identical AND take up the first search results, then Google hasn't been able to provide the best possible results in that search. Some other site that could have been very relevant ended up on page 2.
Search engines strive to provide the best possible results to be able to keep people coming back and searching more. Google must figure out a way to prevent people from having several identical sites online when there should be only one. Otherwise the first page in the SERP might consist of ten sites from the same source.
Many people "legitimately" create several sites and crosslink them because it is really needed for usability or for ease of administration. Let's just hope search engines are able to distinguish between the clean and the dirty. Have a look at this thread for more discussions:
[webmasterworld.com...]

piskie

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Msg#: 9267 posted 10:13 am on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

At the London PubConference, the Google rep told me that sites hosted at the same IP address that were "Like Themed" and linked would not be penalised for this co-hosting. However once duplication or over-similarity comes into play then penalties WOULD be applied.

I did not ask him whether the penalties for duplication for co-hosted sites would be different for a duplication offence but I suspect that both sites may suffer rather than just one of the two.

I would think that sharing an IP woulkd drasticaly shorten the odds of duplication being detected.

Duplication or excess similarity is a NO GO ZONE in.

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