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Dividing outgoing PR?
internal and external links
Emkoo




msg:78833
 5:50 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi, I am quite unsure about this -

(1) Does Google divide outgoing PR on my main page by 2? One half to relative links (to internal pages) and the second to external outgoing links (with [...)?...] Or Google divide outgoing PR equally to all links (no matter are they relative or absolute)?

(2) If there is a 10 links (with the same url) on some page, does google count only 1 link or all of them? I think only 1 but I am also unsure.

Thanks for your comments google-kings:-) Emko

 

NickCoons




msg:78834
 5:55 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Emkoo,

1) Google makes no distinguishment between a page on your site or a page on another site. To them, the internet is one network made of many pages. So the PR is divided equally among the pages that you link to, whether they are internal or not.

2) I've not verified this either, but I would assume just one.. GoogleBot is pretty smart :-).

Emkoo




msg:78835
 6:09 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanx NickCoons for answer on (1), I am quite suprised...

ciml




msg:78836
 6:58 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I agree with NickCoons, but keep in mind this is about PageRank. The link text boost is different for on-domain and off domain links.

Multiple links from PageA to PageB count as one for PageRank.

nyehouse




msg:78837
 8:16 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)


How does google handle multiple links to same page with different link text?

if I have a home button at the top of the page as a text link "home", and then have a link to home page with the text "widgets", does it use both or take the first one.

Does the same weighting for on site and off site apply for alt text that is linkable. If I link an image internally vs externally, does google also weight these differently.

Tim

egomaniac




msg:78838
 11:55 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

> Multiple links from PageA to PageB count as one for PageRank.

Hi ciml, interesting statement you made. Have you come to this conclusion as the result of some testing? I would like to hear more about this. I has always assumed that the PR was divided equally among the links on a page irregardless of where they pointed to.

steveb




msg:78839
 1:57 am on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

"How does google handle multiple links to same page with different link text?"

I stared at one of my pages for ten minutes last night wondering this. On my second highest PR page I have two links to my main page. One of these has good link text. The second can have good link text if I do something slightly ugly design-wise. I can make the design 'prettier' by just using the "Main Page" as link text. Finally I just decided to go uglier and not mess with the link text.

nyehouse




msg:78840
 2:25 am on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)


Steve B

By keeping your second link to your home page with the uglier but better link text, you are implying that google concatenates both link text to the main page into one.

I wonder if the algo is that elegant, and does not simply ignore any additional links on the same page including the text.

I can test it by adding some unique link text as a second link on a page and check it next index and see if it shows up.

Tim

steveb




msg:78841
 7:24 am on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

my point is that if it ignores one, it might ignore the good link text and read the dorky link text. There is no win either way -- unless Googlebot sits around deciding which of the two link texts is groovier.

4serendipity




msg:78842
 1:06 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is an interesting topic.

I'm thinking that it will be easy enough to test this by creating a new page and linking to it with two different text links, making sure that the text for either link does not appear on the target page. After you this, all you would have to do is wait for the next crawl and see which search term, or both, brings up the new page.

Does this seem reasonable?

nyehouse




msg:78843
 2:15 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)


Yes, I think so.

Make sure each text string is unique such as

link1 - foozbugglekip

link2 - foozbugglekop

and then see which one returns a value.

4serendipity




msg:78844
 2:30 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Make sure each text string is unique such as

link1 - foozbugglekip

link2 - foozbugglekop

Yep, I've laready placed this test on my site.

I'll post results when I see them

mattlamb




msg:78845
 7:59 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I cut out a directory page (prior to last update) with over 400 outgoing links (it was a good service to my customers) and I now rank # 1 in google for 2 key words and #2 for key (2 word ) phrase.

thats a fair gain from before where I was only #3 and #5 & #7.

to bad that outgoing links are such a drain on PR. I think they should be neutral.

Matt

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 8:45 pm (utc) on Mar. 10, 2003]

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