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Sites getting double listing
Zapatista




msg:193640
 1:11 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

In my searches on Google, I am seeing an unreasonable amount of double listings for web-sites.

For example:
site 1, #1 & #2 position
site 2, #3 & #4 position
site 3, #5 & #6 position
site 4, #7 & #8 position
....and so on....

It's not just on the first page of results either but seems to be the worse there. It's not just on my competitive keywords but in all my searches.

I thought Google filtered out double listings. Is anyone else seeing this?

If so, is this going to be the norm from now on?

I hope not.

Zapatistas

 

2_much




msg:193641
 2:18 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey Zapatista. I'm not seeing this - do you think it might be because of the update? Are results still fluctuating for you?

piskie




msg:193642
 2:21 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see this a lot on Google UK.

korkus2000




msg:193643
 2:24 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is it clustering like

site1.com
-site1.com/nextpage
site2.com
-site2.com/nextpage

Or is it dupes?

site1.com/widgets.htm
site1.com/widgets.htm
site2.com/widgets.htm
site2.com/widgets.htm

Zapatista




msg:193644
 2:50 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Is it clustering like
site1.com
-site1.com/nextpage
site2.com
-site2.com/nextpage "

Yes, that is exactly what it is doing.

chiyo




msg:193645
 3:44 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

these indented results usually occur when there is a new page that has not been fully indexed yet with Page Rank - usually from fresh listings.

We designed 3 new pages a week ago, and on the SERPS they now appear ABOVE our normal listing - giveing us 2 listings when there were one, but one indented. eg.

new page just fresh listed
- index page that was indexed before

Im 99.9% sure the new fresh page will be dropped in a few days, to reappear as a non-indented listing but much further down in the SERPs on the next reindex.

deejay




msg:193646
 3:51 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have a number of sub-results included from my sites, some in very nice positions :)

These are established pages, so it's not a fresh situation.

Essentially it's Google saying to the searcher "hey, there's at least one more page from this site that about as relevant as the first page, and a bit more relevant than the next site". As a searcher I like this - sites with sub-listings catch my eye as worth checking out.

To me as a webmaster it says I'm hitting the nail pretty well on the head :)

Powdork




msg:193647
 3:54 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Whenever two pages would normally appear on the same SERP page then the second listing is moved up under the first and indented. Therefore, #1 and #9 would become #1 and #2 (indented). If you change your results per page to a number higher than ten then you are increasing the chances of two results occurring on the same page. Change your preferences to 100 results per page and you'll notice almost all the double listings up at the top and the further down the page you go the fewer there will be.

Zapatista




msg:193648
 4:18 am on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

powdork, you might be right because I set mine at 50 results. Let me go change it to 10 and see what happens.

deejay, I think it has more to do with pagerank than optimization.

added later> powdork, you were exactly right. Thank you for that.

ciml




msg:193649
 12:56 pm on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

> Change your preferences to 100 results per page and you'll notice almost all the double listings up at the top and the further down the page you go the fewer there will be.

Thanks for that, Powdork. I always thought that it was just because Google felt that the indented listings took up too much of the results with 10 results per page.

vitaplease




msg:193650
 1:21 pm on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

right on spot podwork.

You'll find in foreign language searches to have many more indented results on the 10 serp pages. A lot less competition around and it does not have to do with freshness.

chiyo




msg:193651
 6:25 pm on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think Podwork is correct, but think that freshness does play a role, even if more minor.

Freshed new pages have "guessed" pagerank, usually much more than they would have in the next index, so freshed news pages have more chance of being listed in the indented results in the top of the serps. What I can't understand is why my fresh listings seem to be the first listed in the duo - the fresh new listings are listed first, with the index page listed as the indented entry. That does seem to be "funny" to me.

I dont know whether anybody else has noted this behaviour.

yasunglass




msg:193652
 6:32 pm on Jan 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have noticed the same results. My index page was showing with a fresh page indented. Two days letter, my index page is gone and my fresh page is there. Other duplicates urls of other sites same keywords are on top one after the other. What is going on? Any comments?

Brett_Tabke




msg:193653
 11:39 am on Jan 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

sys note: faq entry:

Powdork:

Whenever two pages would normally appear on the same SERP page then the second listing is moved up under the first and indented. Therefore, #1 and #9 would become #1 and #2 (indented). If you change your results per page to a number higher than ten then you are increasing the chances of two results occurring on the same page. Change your preferences to 100 results per page and you'll notice almost all the double listings up at the top and the further down the page you go the fewer there will be.

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