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PR 8, How to 10
I have PR 8 Next step up?
teenwolf2000




msg:100442
 7:04 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have a page rank of 8 after the update, - now how am I going to make the step up to 9 or even 10. I think I have links from every where, do I continue to hunt for new links?

 

EliteWeb




msg:100443
 7:07 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I miss link hunting I did it for a while a few months ago. When I sent out my emails submitting my link to them 90% of the people linked to me. However I'm not past PR7 yet so I dont know what to do after that :P Id still go link hunting :P

korkus2000




msg:100444
 7:09 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Find some juicy PR 9s and PR10s. Also become the most authoritative site on the web for your subject. The links will pile up at that point. Look at this site. One of the best resources on the web for web stuff, PR7. PR8 is great, but to jump to 9 is exponential from 7 to 8. You need 2 times as much links from higher PR sites. From 9 to 10 is really hard unless you are huge.

anoryu




msg:100445
 7:20 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

If you need to get links from higher pr sites how does anyone get to pr10?

pageoneresults




msg:100446
 7:35 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

If you need to get links from higher pr sites how does anyone get to pr10?

Become the ultimate authority on your subject as mentioned above. Very few sites will make PR9/PR10. Those that do are usually the authorities in their industry.

Length of time on the web also has some influence. You'll notice that those sites who are PR9/PR10 have been online for quite some time. They have thousands and tens of thousands of links pointing to them. Those that have not and have made the coveted PR9/PR10, must have links from very high authority sites, usually .org and .edu sites. Although .com is in the mix too along with a few other tlds.

If you are sitting at PR8 now (congratulations) invest your time in developing more quality content that people want to link to. There is no need to go on a link seeking campaign, they will come naturally.

ciml




msg:100447
 7:42 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

anoryu, link:www.yahoo.com guestimates over 600,000. Time, as pageoneresults points out, is a major factor.

For most of us, it's the few high PR links that make up most of our PR.

BigDave




msg:100448
 8:39 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

PR10 is easy. All you need to do is write a piece of software that is vital to the internet, give it out free, document it well, and pay the bandwidth bills for all the downloads.

You can even get to PR9+ if your software is only "really useful" instead of "vital".

anoryu




msg:100449
 10:55 pm on Dec 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

big D you made me laugh hard thanks I needed that today...

I will start programming that vital program, I think I'll make it web based so that I can justify getting a bunch of new servers (to support the billions of people that will use the program)

BigDave




msg:100450
 12:03 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

I thought someone would get a kick out of that;)

Since I wrote that, I got to looking around with IE and the toolbar, and I realized how many sites out there with PR9 or PR10 are offering some of my code for download.

Now if I could only get links from all the Linux and BSD distros that include some of my patches, and I would be up in that rarified air of high PR myself.

Then again, I'm kicking butt on the SERPs with a lowly PR5 main page. Anything much past PR6 and it will just be an ego thing.

Dante_Maure




msg:100451
 3:20 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Link opportunities are infinite. If you think you've pursued every potential link opportunity, then you're limiting your horizons.

A few of these threads may serve in getting the juices flowing again...

Linking Campaign Research Article [webmasterworld.com]

Linking - The Big Picture [webmasterworld.com]

Linking Outside the Box [webmasterworld.com]

Research Your Competition [webmasterworld.com]

One Page One Link - A Link Campaign Strategy [webmasterworld.com]

Finding directories to be listed in for best google positioning [webmasterworld.com]

PR Hunting technics
[webmasterworld.com]

skirope




msg:100452
 3:47 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

teenwolf, check your sticky.

vitaplease




msg:100453
 4:58 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

question is, do you really need a higher Pagerank, chances are you are already ranking very well if you did your linkhunting well.

danny




msg:100454
 5:04 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure if the combined efforts of every WebmasterWorld participant would be enough to get a web page to PR 10...

My profile site is back to PR 8 after the last recalibration, but (barring major recalibration) I think my chances of ever making PR 9 are absolutely zero.

vitaplease




msg:100455
 5:10 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Danny, I would agree.

>PR8 is great, but to jump to 9 is exponential from 7 to 8. You need 2 times as much links from higher PR sites.

Korkus, I see it this way. If it took you a year's effort to get a certain quality of links to achieve a PR7, it will probably take 6 or 7 times that same quality effort to get to PR8.

As Ciml, says only a few very exceptional links from very high Pageranked sites will leap-frog that effort.

startup




msg:100456
 5:18 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

do I continue to hunt for new links? Yes!
Find the lowest PR page on your site and get links to that page. If the page has a PR4 you need PR5 links or higher to see the impact. These PR5 links should be inbound and not insite.

BigDave




msg:100457
 6:25 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

As PR8 is only the toolbar PR, there is still value to getting more links coming in. You will be able to make it to a higher PR8.

What I would consider to be the real value to having a PR8+ site would be the ability to make many instant PR6 sites whenever I wanted, and give that site a good jumpstart till it earned it's own inbound links.

You cannot get higher than #1 in the SERPs, and in most cases that can be achieved with pr5-7. Use it wisely and spread he wealth with your other pages.

By the way, does anyone know of any pages with PR9+ that got there through reciprocal links? It seems to me that all of the one's that I know of got there by being worth linking to.

fello




msg:100458
 7:29 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

>> My profile site is back to PR 8 after the last recalibration, but (barring major recalibration) I think my chances of ever making PR 9 are absolutely zero. <<

Danny, I looked at your PR8 site. It looks like 95% of the links are from your own site. I wonder why Google considers those inbound links for "some" sites, but for most sites not. Anyone knows?

vitaplease




msg:100459
 7:35 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

fello,

check Danny's inbound links from those inner pages linking to his index page.

danny




msg:100460
 8:13 am on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

fello, something like 60% of incoming links to my site are to deep pages rather than the home page, so my internal pages have high pageranks on their own account. I find Alltheweb/FAST much more useful for tracking links, by the way.

teenwolf2000




msg:100461
 9:26 pm on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Good tips , I just got PR 8 link me so that might help,
I think I am going to try improving Link Popularity of additional pages within my site and hopefully this help out overal ranking on index page,
OR maybe I will start selling LINKS because I have a PR of 8 :o

cwebb




msg:100462
 12:52 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yep, it doesn't take only double the work (or links) to get from 8 to 9, it depends on the factor Google has set as base for the logarithm and noone really knows this, there have been discussions and calculations and guesses on those factors but if you're not GoogleGuy or an other Google employee you'll likely never know...

(I'm just a physician so my use of english mathematical words might be inappropriate, I'm sorry)

bonzibudy




msg:100463
 1:01 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

a PR8 - Thats amazing!

do any other posters here have 8s or even 9s?

nativenewyorker




msg:100464
 4:24 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

PR9 does not seem to be that difficult to reach with some effort. The homepage of one of the major retailers / warehouse clubs has a PR9 and only 1,780 links to it according to Google. Interestingly enough, the world's largest retailer only has 2,880 links with a PR7. If you guys have 800-900 pages, you could be halfway there.

Ted

teenwolf2000




msg:100465
 9:24 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I currently have around 500 back links but still a PR of 8 [i] My new method is to get links to my other pages on my web site that have PR of 6-7
DOES anyone here have a PR of 9 or .... I said it .....
...... 10?

BigDave




msg:100466
 12:32 am on Dec 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

teenwolf2000,

Just wondering, do you need a PR of 9 or 10? Or is it just an ego thing?

Does your site truely rate a PR of 9 or 10? Does your site rank as being as important as Yahoo, apache, Redhat, Google, microsoft, adobe, sun, gnu, apple, fsf?

If your site it that good just wait a while, and you will get there. If it isn't, enjoy your 8, you are unlikely to ever reach a 10.

teenwolf2000




msg:100467
 6:56 pm on Dec 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I guess I don't NEED a pr of 9 or 10, but yes
it is a ego thing, plus a nice resume builder, so I will strive my best to be like google, microsoft, redhat , ect.... then like Jim Rome would say
Rack Me

BigDave




msg:100468
 7:28 pm on Dec 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

The I think you will be the first webmaster ever to get to PR10 with link exchanges. I am guessing that most of those companies simply do not care that they have a PR10. They have no interest in reciprocal links.

Put content on your page that will get millions of links without you having to hunt them down. Start several forums so that people will want to link to their own discussions and by doing that, it will link to your ego site.

Set up an archive of the LKML that is so nice that you are the one with the site that people point to when a major controversy breaks out.

Make your site a news maker during the first week of each month so that the big news organisations all point to you during the crawl.

teenwolf2000




msg:100469
 9:40 pm on Dec 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I hope to achieve a PR of 9 next month, I just added my site to several PR of 8 so this should help :)

Alby




msg:100470
 12:22 am on Dec 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Teenwolf,

I had PR9 for a while with only 3 incoming links from PR 9 pages, and 3 from PR8, plus 3-400 from PR4, PR5 and PR6's. Unfortunately I am now down to PR6, but my rankings and traffic is up (go figure):)

PR9 is certainly achievable for a commercial site, even if you only have a few PR8 and PR9 links. However, I think PR10 is nearly impossible.

teenwolf2000




msg:100471
 8:27 pm on Dec 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

Very interesting,
I just got 6 PR to link to me, this might help

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