| 7:08 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
They also got a Thanksgiving Logo up. But I am not going to eat that bird. I love that bird. That bird is my friend.
Added> Happy Thanksgiving To Everyone!
[edited by: radiosky at 7:13 am (utc) on Nov. 28, 2002]
|brotherhood of LAN|
| 7:09 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
The Google Knowledge Base [webmasterworld.com] should answer any questions about G and its updates.
It might look lengthy but everything is in there, and is applicable for every update (even though it seems not during these threads) ;)
Googleguy, is that a hint you're going to skip next months update? :)
| 7:10 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I'm seeing different results, dantheman. One's *real* important, it stayed solid, a couple dropped a little bit. I have one new little hobby site of my own I'd have liked to be included, but accidentally left the noindex, nofollow.
I never do see much in the way of changes from month to month. Just one site recently dropped quite a bit, but that needs total re-doing from top to bottom altogether.
You too GoogleGuy, and everyone else also. Nice turkey there:
| 7:14 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
What, no compliments on our fruit? :)
hope you have good holidays,
| 7:23 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
So does this mean if your site doesn't show up in www2 and www3 it's not in? I was hoping my site would reappear after dissapearing during the month. Things are not looking good. :(
| 7:28 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
oh man, oh man, oh man... i am one happy camper. i just got 700+ new products added, and this update was to see how google likes my new site design. life is good. i do owe this one to everyone here at WebmasterWorld that has taken time out of their busy lives to answer silly little questions from everyone, which allowed me and countless others to learn the correct way to optimize their site. my thanks to everyone.
| 7:29 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I wouldn't conclude anything so earlier in the update, Buckley. Sometimes it takes a while for everything to get set up.
| 7:34 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
The fruits are wonderful, so is Google, so is my new fan club now that I am in the top ten.
Hey, I learned something this update. DO NOT sit and compulse while you wait for the update. Keep pumping in quality backlinks. Pound out new and informative articles while others are worrying about when the update starts. Tweak your Title. And etc.
When my therapist first told me to try this strategy I, as usual, thought he was the one with issues. But to my surprise no more wild dreams of giant PR's trampling me during a riot at a Google dance.
And I am miles ahead of the compulsers for the next dance.
| 7:35 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for that GG
I'm not holding my breath though. You guys must be really busy. Been waiting over 3 weeks for an e-mail from Google to find out if i have been banned or just dropped out for some other reason. Any other way to find out faster?
Cheers from Australia
| 7:35 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Hmmmm, this is weird.
I had freshbot coming over every day. It didn't really satisfy me when i noticed that not all pages made it into the index.
So, i started to redesign and got rid of some frames pages.
Now, with this update, all my pages are appearing in www2 again...
however , it's showing the out of date pages!
No idea if i should feel good or sad now
| 7:42 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
According to the Google Directory on www2, I am still PR4, but ahead of PR4 sites that were ahead of me last update. I was hoping for a PR5 but knew it would be close = maybe/maybe not.
However, since Google didn't seem to find my best 20 backlinks (added 2-3 weeks ago) I'm inclined to think I will reach it next time with more work.
Still, my high PR4 in my competition is giving me great results.
| 7:43 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I never really watch out for the update as what will happen will happen but here in Thailand using the .com I cannot see a Turkey or any fruit?!
| 8:03 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I'm also seeing less backlinks (maybe G set the backlink limit one PR level higher?).
OTOH, more (dynamic) pages in the index :).
| 8:04 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
ok.. in the 1 whole month I've been reading this board, I have made it to 7th place with the help of ALL the great threads here. I just want to say THANK YOU ALL, and a happy thanksgiving!
| 8:05 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
GG: a great update!
| 8:12 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I am not sure if this is important but I see yahoo with 632,000 on all three googles.
| 8:22 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Overall a good update for me. My 2 sites have held the #1 posistion on a single critical keyword for each respectively, and one of the sites has held the #6 spot for a third critical keyword. The *really* weird thing is one of my 2 sites jumped way from #28 to #3 for key single important keyword search. What is so weird about this #28 to #3 position jump is that I did basically nothing to try and do better for that site with that keyword. That keyword is important for the other site, not this one. I didn't even try to use SEO techniques like up keyword density to try and get that site way up for that keyword. And, the number of sites that link to that page basically hasn't changed, so any sort of PR jump really can't explain it. I'll give thanksgiving to Google for this, but I really wonder how I succeeded without even trying for that keyword. ;)
| 8:23 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
belgian guy, what you are experiencing is normal. The update is based on the pages that existed and were crawled about four weeks ago. Fresh pages from the past few weeks are not permanently in the index and won't be till *next* update. They will appear very soon after the update finishes though, again as fresh results. There are other threads dealing with this, you can use the site search to find them. Also, there isn't anything you can do about it so don't worry. :)
| 8:38 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
How permanent are ranking results from www2 and www3 this early in the update?
| 8:40 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
| 8:48 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
>How permanent are ranking results from www2 and www3 this early in the update?
My observation is usually they are a pretty good ballpark approximation. As in, if you are now #1 for a search term, by the end of the dance you may fall to #3 or #4. However, rare for any sort of drop like 30 places down in the SERPs.
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 8:59 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Things have happened while we europeans were sleeping. But for my part it really does not make any difference in the day's work. It's still: Upload new pages, tweak the existing ones, gain good backlinks, take a look at Google now and then.
| 9:40 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Wow, it started a bit earlier than usual... Still, looks like a good update apart from one site that is annoying the sausages out of me. My profile site seems to be back okay and it's picked up the Dmoz link once again. Phew!
Now, where's 'me turkey?
| 9:41 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Buckley, some bad news and some good news. Bad news: You know the SEO that you paid to create doorway pages on your site? His doorway pages and sneaky redirects got you caught. We'd already caught that guy once, warned him extremely strongly, then decided to give him one more chance. Instead of straightening up and flying right, looks like he headed right back to the gutter. He probably didn't mention he'd already gotten clients banned before? Folks like that are part of the reason we made this page:
Please read that page carefully.
The good news is that there's probably light at the end of the tunnel for your site. The last tidbit of advice I'd give is this: just because someone puts a prominent link to an SEO code of ethics on their front page--that doesn't mean that they abide by it. :) Next time, don't choose an SEO that will try stuff like doorway pages + redirects on your site, yah?
Hey, coosblues, I'm glad if I was able to help. Seems like trying to hang around here last month was pretty helpful. WebmasterWorld is great as far as the number of people who are willing to answer questions. There's a lot of helpful folks here.
| 9:34 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
My new site went from 9 backlinks to 108. Went from position 60 to position 2 for one targeted keyword.
Is there something sinister at Google that makes them destroy holidays this way? First they do it on Halloween and now Thanksgiving. Instead of watching football, I'll now be sitting in front of my computer checking to see where I end up in the new index!
Oh well, the life of a new webmaster, I guess.
Google was very kind to me this Thanksgiving. Hope it was as kind to everyone else!
Have a nice thanksgiving everyone. And thanks to everyone who helped me improve my SERPS so dramatically.
- thought it was strange that there wasn't a thread on this - but didn't see it when I started the new topic. Must have been temporarily buried among all the other threads and I was too excited to notice. Sorry for the duplicate post!
[edited by: jimh009 at 9:48 am (utc) on Nov. 28, 2002]
| 9:36 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
wow, got 2 PR plus for my website, thank you google.
| 9:47 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Hmmm, I think it may finally be time for me to do my 'ethical SEO' bit, I've dropped a place pretty much across the board by a site using a shadow domain and deceptive redirect. :(
| 9:52 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
puzzled: how do ou see this. i thought pr in toolbar is not yet updated.
| 9:53 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Go for the high road, olias! The efforts are longer-lasting and you'll sleep better at night. :)
Sleepy GoogleGuy.. Must walk away.. from keyboard..
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 10:01 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
> Hmmm, I think it may finally be time for me to do my 'ethical SEO' bit, I've dropped a place pretty much across the board by a site using a shadow domain and deceptive redirect.
Google even has a moralising influence. Good for you, GoogleGuy. :-)
| 10:03 am on Nov 28, 2002 (gmt 0)|
|The efforts are longer-lasting and you'll sleep better at night. |
I'll sleep even better once i figure out why i lost a few other places here and there, but i can live with legitimate sites above me.
Anyway, that is my first spam report filed and it feel quite good. Maybe I'll have a bit of a crusade on them! :)