| 12:21 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Just want to add something else to the above post. I was notified by Yahoo several days ago that i would be included in their directory. I just noticed a directory listing for my site when i typed in one of my keywords.
Could this be causing problems at Google?
Thanks for your help.
| 12:33 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I don't know if a server outage would cause you to be dropped completely, but it's not a good thing.
Getting a Yahoo! listing is a commonly-recommended method for getting listed in Google, so it's not a bad thing!
You said your PR is gone... What color is your Toolbar, white or grey?
| 12:34 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
buckley, howdy, theres alot of stuff disappearing on google. links, sites, you name it, its disappeared. just read some of these threads to get an idea of why. i really doubt it has anything to do with yahoo though.
| 12:49 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
The toolbar is GREY. and says Current page not ranked by Google.
Up until 24 hours ago i was ranking, both good and bad on over 30 keywords....now not even listed in the SE.
What's the chances i've been banned?
What else could it be. And what should i do?
Thanks for your help...much appreciated
| 12:56 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
We were dropped from Google completely (page rank gray - site not ranked) in late September. I assumed it must have been a fluke or due to a server outage during the September update.
6 weeks later we're still not listed if you do a search for our domain. We do show up in their cache if you do cache:domain though.
In any case, we have a well constructed content rich ecommerce site that has been on the web since 1995. We don't use any spam tactics & we have a reasonable number of links back to our site (around 850 according to Google).
We are now in a position of having to scramble to cut costs so that we can afford more paid advertising in order to sustain enough revenue to continue to meet our business expenses and payroll.
While I have to think we'll eventually be listed again, I'm extremely frustrated with Google & it pains me to continue to pay them thousands of dollars a month for CPC advertising. Anyway, lesson learned -- look for as many baskets as you can to put your eggs in.
I hope you have better luck than we have & your site pops back soon.
| 1:18 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
rustyzipper, loved your site, clean, no clutter, well thought out store. did you really get alot of sale traffic from google? i never did, even when i ranked well. i got traffic but not many sales from google.
| 1:19 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Do you think you've been banned? You are the best judge of this, since you know what's on the site.
You might want to check out the Google Do's and Don'ts [google.com] and be sure to read between the lines...
Also, a site search here on WebmasterWorld for "my site dropped" and "PR0" will turn up a lot of research material.
| 1:28 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for the kind words about our site. We received most of our non-CPC traffic from Google served results (google/aol primarily).
Because our site has so many products with detailed descriptions, Google indexed it well & we would show up for lots of obscure searches that were highly relevant & resulted in sales (stuff like "nylon vintage racing jacket", "1940's cufflinks". etc)
So the complete drop from Google is pretty devastating to our business.
| 1:31 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
We went through a server change on Oct. 7 and one of our sites was completely missed by Google. This was a site that has also been around since 1995 and was well ranked. Our PR bar is grey.
We were heavily crawled over the past week by Miss Googlebot and suddenly a few days ago showed up again with a "fresh tag" of Nov. 5 (now Nov. 7) and back on the first page of our main search term. We still show a grey PR and many of our secondary pages are still not there however I would imagine that our PR (and pages) will return with the next update.
Buckley - from the sounds of it your site was down when Googlebot came to visit. Have you been crawled? If so you will in all likelyhood return next update.
| 1:51 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Thanks everybody for your help.
Tropical Island....I was updated in a big way during the recent google update. I've been showing up with the updated pages until sometime in the last 24 hours.
I also had my recent ODP listing show up as a backward link for the first time (since the recent G update).
I gather googlebot comes along and refreshes certain pages during the month.
It seems ridiculous to me, that if thats the case, and googlebot comes along every other day, that if on any one of those days your site is down , that you would be dropped from the G index all together.
I don't think i have done anything that would get me banned. In fact....I just got my ODP listing and recognition from Google about it (backward link)
and i just got listed in Yahoo (and i didn't pay for it)
Any other thoughts or ideas on what to do would be greatly appreciated.
| 4:43 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
rustyzipper-- " We don't use any spam tactics & we have a reasonable number of links back to our site (around 850 according to Google)." ---
Take a good look at the cached version of your site. There might be some answers to your question. *Hint - scroll to the bottom of the page and highlight all of the hidden keywords that you have there.
You took a gable and you lost, it happens. Even if when google checked your site it was clean, google's cache was showing spam.
You should change your host, clean up your HTML (at several instances you have 6 </b> tags in a row), add alt"" values to your images, add <h> text and stay away from spam. You will be back on google in several month.
| 4:45 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Sticky me your url.
| 4:48 am on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Rusty, very nice site. If I'm shopping for a leisure suit, I know where to go.
|We don't use any spam tactics |
Your page now looks clean, but the Google cache of your page has lots of white/white keyword-rich text. Aint that a spam tactic that has got penalties before?
| 12:03 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
gee wiz.....if that aint the pot calling the kettle black....google is the largest spamer on the planet and rustyzipper is hammered for some keywords?
| 1:37 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
|gee wiz.....if that aint the pot calling the kettle black....google is the largest spamer on the planet |
How do you figure that?
|and rustyzipper is hammered for some keywords? |
You bet and so he should be! Google has been trying to suss out this and many other forms of spam for quite some time. No offense rustyzipper ... its just one of the rules and you got caught! Clean it up! After a while, you will be forgiven, your PR will return and so will your traffic. :)
| 2:17 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Having mirrors at
isn't going to help your case overmuch. Mat
[edited by: NFFC at 3:41 pm (utc) on Nov. 9, 2002]
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| 3:22 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
|We don't use any spam tactics & we have a reasonable number of links back to our site (around 850 according to Google). |
Good catch Mat! Not so clean and spam free after all. Mirror site, hidden keywords ... just the sort of thing everyone should avoid or suffer the consequences.
| 5:20 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
|gee wiz.....if that aint the pot calling the kettle black....google is the largest spamer on the planet and rustyzipper is hammered for some keywords? |
Since when is Google the largest spammer on the planet?
You could have fooled me. I always thought Google was just the best search engine on the planet...and the only one that's making a serious effort to keep spam out of its search results.
| 6:26 pm on Nov 9, 2002 (gmt 0)|
lian, europeforvisitors, i would respond however as my post would probably be deleted its best to just let it go.
| 5:21 am on Nov 11, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I found my site disappear on Saturday, Nov 9.
It used to be indexed very well, and received over 8,000 unique visitors from Google.
The site was growing so fast within 5 month, which you can see at the table here:
I am worried very much and afraid I am banned forever.. I don't believe this is because my server was down when GoogleBot crawl my site, as Buckley's was also removed from the index in the same time..
| 5:36 am on Nov 11, 2002 (gmt 0)|
You won't be banned forever because your server was down. However, your site may be dropped for a month because of it. If the Google "fresh 'bot" visits your site, you may reappear before then.
Please note the the WebmasterWorld Terms of Service (see bottom of this page) prohibit posting URL's of your site or those of your competitors.
Keep an eye out for visits from Googlebot, and hopefully, your listing will reappear.
| 5:40 am on Nov 11, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I am sorry, I am new to this forum.. posting URL won't happen again.
I hope it will be indexed again, but it's strange to have over 7,000 of my indexed URL disappear at a time.