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Google new update + PHP Nuke
my sites appear to have appeared much more prominently
ade_uk




msg:124859
 4:59 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

i've run 4 PHP nuke sites for a while and they've never really got going in google - its never really picked up the text etc, however this month all of them are in really nicely & at the top for my terms :)

 

onebaldguy




msg:124860
 5:10 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

What is PHP nuke? We are considering changing our pages to PHP, but I am not familiar with PHP nuke. (Maybe it is because I am not the programmer and do not know much about PHP).

GoogleGuy




msg:124861
 5:16 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

PHP Nuke is a really cool slashdot-like bulletin board system. See phpnuke.org for more info. To answer your question, ade_uk: I know that this index was scheduled to bring in better crawling of some dynamic urls, so I'm not surprised. Just one of those little things that we do all the time to improve our quality. Most of the time people don't even notice, but I'm glad that you did.

Slud




msg:124862
 5:56 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hey ade, are you using any special nuke modules or URL rewriting to achieve this, or is your site closely based off the standard default nuke install?

Also what version of nuke are you using? Have you made the jump to 6 (or 6.5 for that matter)?

thunderpaste




msg:124863
 6:16 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

ade_uk please answer on the link re-writing, or lack thereof. We are currently developing a Post-nuke/OS commerce site and I have been having bad dreams about what could happen to our SERPs in Google.

We are planning to install mod_rewrite before launch but any information you could provide would be immensly helpful to my insomnia!

MOOSBerlin




msg:124864
 6:26 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

We have running over 15 Nuke-based sites, and after the September-Dance they were from PR4 to PR7. That were Nuke 5.0 to 5.6 sites. In Oktober we made at most sites a update to Nuke 6.0 (6.5 doesn't exist), and the serps now also are very good. Only the site in my profile has PR0 (i think a penalty of heavy crosslinking in the end of 2001). But we think, our site is clean now for some month, but still has PR0!

[edited by: MOOSBerlin at 9:03 pm (utc) on Oct. 31, 2002]

thunderpaste




msg:124865
 6:30 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

MOOSberlin, do you use any URL re-writing system with your nuke sites? Or are the URLs the standard ones generated by nuke?

MOOSBerlin




msg:124866
 6:41 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

@thunderpaste: No, we are not using any URL re-writing system!

thunderpaste




msg:124867
 6:46 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thank you MOOSberlin. Now I can get some decent rest! As soon as I finish populating my database, partying for halloween, write link requests, answer emails, and fill todays orders:)

nutsandbolts




msg:124868
 6:51 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Not using any Re-write after following GG's advice - myPHPNuke and Oscommerce (PHP) doing really well in this update too. Great!

thunderpaste




msg:124869
 7:06 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Can you direct me to where GoogleGuy says not to re-write URLs?

Thanks

Slud




msg:124870
 7:09 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Slightly OT now, but any general impression on OSCommerce. I installed 2.1, but I haven't heard of a lot of development recently. Has anyone run into any show-stopper bugs in production use?

nutsandbolts




msg:124871
 7:14 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

He didn't say "Don't", more it's good to leave it as is...- take a read [webmasterworld.com] ;)

Slud - OsCommerce 2.2 is great.. much nicer than 2.1

rogerd




msg:124872
 8:33 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm noticing better indexing of dynamic URLs in the early going of this update, too - in my case, on an e-commerce site.

GoogleGuy




msg:124873
 9:02 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

Glad that dynamic indexing seems to be going better across the board for people..

hooloovoo22




msg:124874
 10:40 pm on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

MOOSBerlin,
6.5 has been alpha released, it actually integrates the phpBB port, phpChat, and others. Haven't upgraded yet, will probably wait for awhile, but sounds promising.

ade_uk




msg:124875
 9:06 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

thanks for the answer googleguy :)

slud:
im running nuke 6 relatively standard apart from some extra modules/blocks etc, alhtough have edited meta.php in the includes dir

i havent done any link re-writing...

MOOSBerlin




msg:124876
 9:18 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

hooloovoo22,
i also have read this, but i also will wait a little bit with 6.5 :)

cmslivre




msg:124877
 11:22 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

The PHP Nuke is a great CMS, the trend is to grow each time more, in my area, i want only develop established sites in this new system, the customers likes because they have more control on its site, being thus free of bad webmasters.

they forgive for my bad English.
:)

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 5:52 pm (utc) on Nov. 4, 2002]
[edit reason] TOS #14 [/edit]

MOOSBerlin




msg:124878
 11:47 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

cmslivre,
you are right, PHPNuke is a good thing for site owners, but a bad thing for the old html based webmasters :)

zeb




msg:124879
 12:05 pm on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Those guys read webmasterworld. Googleguy's comment in this thread is allready on the main page of phpnuke.org!

beachlover




msg:124880
 8:04 pm on Nov 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

<bump>

Are there any more observations, now that the dance settled?

Any information on how Google handled and ranked php-sites last month is appreciated.

TheWebHead




msg:124881
 4:24 am on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

[google.com...]

As you can see in the link above, only pages containing the long URL within text are getting indexed, not the URL's themselves. Contast that with the old article.php URLs, with over 1 million indexed -- mostly URL's, not text..

[google.com...]

I think somebody jumped the gun in their enthusiasm.

Macphisto




msg:124882
 3:24 pm on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm using mod_rewrite on 2 Nuke sites with good success.
Google had no problem with the old URLs but other SE's have. The only trouble is upgrading to newer Nuke versions after many lines of code customized :)

Matt

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