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Google Wins Yahoo
The guessing is over -- Yahoo stays with Google and debuts new look.
dannysullivan




msg:122057
 9:29 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just announced that Yahoo has renewed with Google, and this also explains the major changes that some people have seen at Yahoo this week. This thread covers that:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Also posted a story at my site -- if a moderator wants to do a direct link, pretty easy to spot.

 

RBuzz




msg:122058
 9:39 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Listening to the conference call right now.. did I hear that this renewal was non-exclusive? I'm going to have to go back and relisten to that portion of the call.

jeremy goodrich




msg:122059
 9:39 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Figures. With Yahoo owning 10% of Google, long term, it's a good investment for them. :)

DrCool




msg:122060
 9:40 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

This kind of sucks. I wish they would have left the search results the way they were.

Nick_W




msg:122061
 9:41 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Happy days ;)

Thanks Danny!

Nick

jeremy goodrich




msg:122062
 9:42 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

True. If that format stays...it's not so good for those who submit lots of stuff to Yahoo. :( (I hope they are just tinkering...)

nutsandbolts




msg:122063
 9:43 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice article Danny too...

The Yahoo! Changes are going to affect lots of people... Bah sucks if they think I am renewing my $299 next year....

[edited by: nutsandbolts at 9:45 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2002]

defanjos




msg:122064
 9:45 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately Google will own the search market eventually - a monopoly is never good.

Inktomi is done :(

If you ask me, this is not good, I was hoping someone else got Yahoo search results business.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:122065
 9:47 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I scanned through the "New! We've improved Yahoo! Search" with google highlighted.....using my google toolbar :)

Not one mention of google at first glance.

Seems they don't want to promote the "powered by google" aspect anymore.....very discrete ;)

gopi




msg:122066
 9:49 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yahoo proved that its commited to best search resuts than a temporary boost in revenue...

Google is still the best SE (even after this months somewhat degraded index) and kicking it out would have caused yahoo serious public relation damage.

I am very happy with this even though my rankings suck in this months update :( ...

john316




msg:122067
 9:51 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

"Analysts said they wanted to know how much of Yahoo's strength came from the Overture deal."

[biz.yahoo.com...]

Whatever it is, it will surely be more next quarter, thanks in large part to the improved algo. I kinda figured google brought a little something "extra" to the table for this round of negotiations.

nutsandbolts




msg:122068
 9:51 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

... Can you hear the affiliate site owners jumping from windows as we speak?

jeremy goodrich




msg:122069
 9:51 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I just read over that new link on the Yahoo serp about their results. No mention of Google, anywhere - that means more than likely, it's not exclusive.

So what else might they work into the mix, given that? Hmm...

DrCool




msg:122070
 9:51 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have no problem with them keeping Google. That is a very good move on their part. What I don't like is the directory listings that people paid $299 for are now "buried". I had great Yahoo listings and now those are semi-worthless in terms of traffic generation. Oh, well. I have survived worse.

gopi




msg:122071
 9:57 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

"Inktomi is done "

Yup , yesterday they announced a 20% layoff :)

[news.com.com...]

Next 100% Layoff (chapter 11) ! ... :)

[edited by: gopi at 10:00 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2002]

GoogleGuy




msg:122072
 10:00 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm glad that Yahoo renewed their choice of Google to provide search services.

Just me speaking as a private person, not as anything official: I've personally always respected Yahoo enormously, and it's great that we're continuing our partnership.

gopi




msg:122073
 10:01 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Convey my big congrats to your sales people GG :)

mykel




msg:122074
 10:05 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

nutsandbolts:
Can you hear the affiliate site owners jumping from windows as we speak?

Hmm...why do you say that?

nutsandbolts




msg:122075
 10:05 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I feel sorry for those people who have spent thousands on $299 a piece directory listings though. I could only be bothered buying one early last year (when Google slapped me)

Now - will Yahoo! go with Adwords Select GoogleGuy? ;)

pmac




msg:122076
 10:07 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I recall Y! and Overture just did a three year deal a couple months back.

dantheman




msg:122077
 10:13 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

This is good news for my sites, and I think a wise move from Yahoo. Inktomi have a long way to close the gap before they're really competitive.

When did Yahoo change how the results are displayed?

Beachboy




msg:122078
 10:17 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yes, it is sad about the money spent to be in Yahoo. We are in that boat too, although we have made no effort to have any of our own sites included in Yahoo since they went to the recurring annual fee.

I have to admit I do like the new Yahoo search results format with combined results. For those who rank well in Google, it is a sunny day.

And I think that signing a new deal with Google was a very smart move. Me be a happy Beachboy today. :)

Marcia




msg:122079
 10:20 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

This should work beautifully, since Google is so good with those specific searches that aren't necessarily popular, but they're so targeted they convert beautifully for people.

In the new system, both Yahoo and Google results are mixed together under an entirely new "Web Matches" section.

Good for consumers to find their exact items and speed their searches, and good for online Moms and Pops. Some of those head right to the shopping cart they're so precisely targeted.

Very nice article:

[searchenginewatch.com...]

This is a particularly interesting observation:

Indeed, Google has become a synonym for web search to some people.

That's quite an accomplishment in branding in a few short years. People don't say they're buying tissues, they say they're buying Kleenex. Now they don't say go to a search engine, they say "Do a Google search."

4crests




msg:122080
 10:23 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I keep trying to get all my eggs out of one basket, but Google keeps putting them back in to the Google basket.

All I need now is for MSN to go Google. Then I can just give up trying.

dannysullivan




msg:122081
 10:26 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

> I keep trying to get all my eggs out of one basket, but Google keeps putting them back in to the Google basket.

Well, more may happen. Inktomi tells me now that they are still in talks with Yahoo. Yahoo was also very strong on the whole "non-exclusive" thing with Google, so we could see further providers mixing in results.

jeremy goodrich




msg:122082
 10:27 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

If that happens, then INK's .27 cents stock may start to seem like a good idea.

skibum




msg:122083
 10:33 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

This may come to be known as D-Day II for many site owners that have come to depend on the keyword laden domain names and other Spam in YAHOO!.

Can't say I'm happy to lose lots of YAHOO! rankings, but this new search format is a huge upgrade now that it doesn't display all that affiliate and other junk the directory was becoming consumed with.

Maybe Ink could step in and provide some kind of more shopping or business services related search. Non exclusive is good, it keep the possibility open that other data sources besides Google will be available to the public.

Beachboy




msg:122084
 10:38 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

<<Now they don't say go to a search engine, they say "Do a Google search.">>

Or say, "I Googled it," or "I Googled him," or....

DrCool




msg:122085
 10:38 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Black Wednesday?

jaytierney




msg:122086
 10:40 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Frankly, I think Yahoo should issue refunds to people who submitted for express inclusion in the last three months or so -- what a joke! $300 to have your listing buried? If they think they're going to be able to renew that next year, you can expect to see thousand and thousands of temporarily abandoned domains without sites on them.

Generally speaking, this is horrible - even if you didn't like Yahoo SERP's at least they were different from Google... now everything is the same.

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