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Using h3 tags throughout a page - is that okay?

 9:37 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)


I need to increase my google rankings after going down over the past month.

In an effort to increase rankings I've just started using the <h3> tags etc. I've used all the sizes throughout the page - is this okay or does google only like 2 or 3 <h2> tags per page.


I have quite a few other puzzle sites that link to me but google doesn't appear to of picked up many of my asp - do you know why? hence links to my site are lower than some of my competitors even though I have more high quality links to me than they do.

I look forward to hearing from you - thanks in advance

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 10:51 pm (utc) on Aug. 14, 2002]



 10:26 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi workinghard

1. You'll need to delete your URL from the post, or a moderator will do it for you :) You can put it in your profile and direct people there if you like.

2. With the H tags, just make sure you use them logicaly, eg:

H1 - One tag only per page - the main heading of the page.

H2 - subheadings on the page, can be more than one, but should be genuine headings.

H3 - sub-subheadings, etc.

3. I think a PR6 with 72 backlinks (about 30 external) showing is pretty good. I'm a bit fuzzy on this - but I think the backlinks only shows linking pages with a PR4 or greater? It could be that Google knows about many more of your links, but just isn't making them obvious.

Remember that links pages on sites often are lowish PR - not well linked throughout the site, so when you go for a new link you need to look at the PR of the page that will be linking to you, not at the PR of the homepage.

Visit Thailand

 1:33 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Following on from this - Is it Ok to have a h2 tag above an h1 tag ?

So that a page sub title appears before the main title both on the page and in code.


 1:55 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

The way I understand it, it's best to have them hierarchical. The sizes can be adjusted with CSS.


 5:06 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

From the W3C...

> Some people consider skipping heading levels to be bad practice. They accept H1 H2 H1 while they do not accept H1 H3 H1 since the heading level H2 is skipped.

7.5.5 Headings: The H1, H2, H3, H4, H5, H6 elements [w3.org]

The suggested format would be to follow the order in which they were intended; h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6.


 5:15 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just to clarify a point, if there are several subsections on the page of equal weight content-wise, then the headings for those sections could all be <h3> logically. There's no problem with that, and it does make the page readable.

A main heading on top of the page though, should be larger than the sub-sections. In the case of using <h3> for sub-headings, not caring for <h1> I've used <h2> for the main heading and there's been no validation problem with that.


 5:29 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Would you use them in this format...

> h1
>> h1

> h2
>> h2

> h3
>> h3

or this format...

> h2
>> h3

> h2
>> h3

brotherhood of LAN

 5:35 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)


Hopefully to ease your mind I can say that I use H3 tags as a substitute for <p> tags, ie big blocks of text using h3 - it isn't a problem (though one swallow doesn't make a summer)

I don't know if the h3 as opposed to <p> will make any real difference.


 11:58 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi Workinghard welcome to the forum,

I use h1,h2,h3 tags with no problems at all. In fact one keyword in my h3 tag ranks first page with Fast engines i.e Lycos even though the keyword isn't mentioned anywhere else in the page.

Go for it.


 1:31 am on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

If there are no other <H> tags on a page, will Google assign the same importance to <H5> tags as it does normally to <H1> tags when they are present?



 1:49 am on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I typically use <h1> for top of the page big letters usually paraphrasing the title. I use <h2> for the categories. I will occasionally use <h3> if there are any subcats. Then i use <h4> for my image captions. I never gave any thought as to whether that was bad.


 2:16 am on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I only use H3 Tags if my site goes 5 levels deep to link to deeper content. If you have allot of competition do this. otherwize it won't matter if it's regular text or H3 from my experience.

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