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How risky are click stuffer programs?
gain clicks to your website
workinghard

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Msg#: 4790 posted 7:53 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi

I have a piece of software that locates your website on google or yahoo (and other search engines) and then clicks on your site.

It can do this as many times as required in any time required. It uses a fake IP address each time.

The logic being the more clicks that you get to your site that don't hit the back button to the search engine - the more the search engines like your site increasing your position = more real visitors.

This piece of software alters the time it takes between finding your site and placing the click. It uses a fake IP address so the search engines don't realise it's the same software generating the clicks.

If you used it carefully i.e only generating you an extra 20 clicks over a 6hr period for a low traffic site - would that be okay?

Would you use it?

Thank you Alan

 

Josk

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Msg#: 4790 posted 8:22 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

For Google you wish to do a bit more reading, and for engines that actually do use click rates for their algorithms then it would probably have to be more than 2o hits an hour. Additioanlly, I would gues that that this would be quite easy to spot...

tigger

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Msg#: 4790 posted 8:26 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Would you use it?

Never, if google picked up on this they would ban the URL, far too risky

Dreamquick

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Msg#: 4790 posted 8:29 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Simple answer... no.

Attempting to cheat the system is never worth it, because sooner or later they will find out and when the do their response may so severe (see google PR0 for an example) that it outweighs any potential gain you could make.

The problems with that plan are many...

1) AFAIK google isn't interested how many times a certain link is clicked, as they have more of an investment in page rank technology which works off incoming & outgoing links

2) In my mind this program would fall into the same category as things like WPG as it has the potential for abuse of SE services - all it takes is enough careless/greedy people and in come the penalties

3) Contrary to what you may think virtually nothing on the web is *totally* undetectable and I think given enough time anyone could identify this program for what it really is

4) The term "fake IP address" always makes me cringe, what they really mean is that they use a proxy server (which they happen to have built/found a list of), now this has two problems;

Firstly when the software reaches a reasonable number of users even a large list of proxies will quickly exhaust themselves. When this happens SEs can easily track the users of the program because they are using those proxies in a certain way. The more hits people want the faster the list becomes exhausted.

Secondly most proxies aren't supposed to be publically available and are just badly configured, potentially you could get the people/companies who own these proxies complaining about you using their systems without permission.

5) Would they notice 20 hits over 6 hours? Probably not but it's not just about *you* using this software, it's about the impact of *everyone* who uses this software. Potentially people could just run this a whole lot faster which would attract attention.

- Tony

FlashRed

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Msg#: 4790 posted 9:27 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

No - this is blatant manipulation, I'm certain you're not the first to think of it, and I'm also sure that Google have considered this to some extent (otherwise they will read your post here and they certainly will! :) ).

ciml

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Msg#: 4790 posted 10:03 am on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Alan.
(Make sure to check out paynt's welcome post [webmasterworld.com])

I guess you've been put off this idea;), I'm sure people do this sort of thing elsewhere but you have some good reasons here why it won't help in Google.

I suggest reading Brett's Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com] post to see what does work.

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