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PageRank Update
Jan 1, 2005 - Happy New Year
hdpt00




msg:39618
 3:21 am on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seeing PR being updated on 66.102.11.99 now as well as anotehr datacenter. No toolbar update showing as of yet.

Happy New Year.

 

benevolent001




msg:39738
 6:07 pm on Jan 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

hello just change IP if needed

Go to your windows folder on your hard drive
Locate the file named Hosts (no extension, just Hosts)

Using Notepad or some other plain text editor, open the Hosts file

add this line to it:
66.102.11.99 toolbarqueries.google.com

Save the host file as All Files back to your Windows folder (What works for me is to save the file name as "Hosts" (using the quote marks)

Once you save the file, your G Toolbar will only use
that particular datacenter. Once you're done, reopen hosts file, slap a # at the front of that line, or just delete that line and save the file again, the same as you did before


kamran mohammed




msg:39739
 5:30 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi benevolent....

I wanted to ask u ...i m using Windows 2000 Professional...
so whr can i find that file....
i located one file with the name Hosts but in that....i can see IP address and some-domain-names.com
but that IP address is my system Localhost...

so i wanted to know..what exactly will be written in that file....and whr shd i locate the file if i m using Windows 2000 professional....

Regards,

KaMran...

MLHmptn




msg:39740
 5:38 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi benevolent....
I wanted to ask u ...i m using Windows 2000 Professional...
so whr can i find that file....
i located one file with the name Hosts but in that....i can see IP address and some-domain-names.com
but that IP address is my system Localhost...

so i wanted to know..what exactly will be written in that file....and whr shd i locate the file if i m using Windows 2000 professional....

Regards,

KaMran...

In your WINNT > SYSTEM32 > DRIVERS > ETC folder

hosts

Edit with notepad

manzan




msg:39741
 2:09 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

We have had a page rank of 6 for our home page for the last two years. The site has about 1200 informational pages. The other pages had ranks between 2 - 5.

Suddenly, I noticed after Christmas that my home page rank has dropped to 1.

About 2 months back I changed all the dynamic pages to static ones and added 301 redirects to the old dynamic pages. The new static pages have a blank PR.

When I search for specific key words, the relevant pages do not appear in the first 20 pages. When I add the site name (which is not a common word) in the search, the results appear in page 10 or so (the dynamic page shows up as a 'supplemental result' and the new static page shows up a few rows later). All the pages that link to my site show up earlier in the first 10 pages.

What could have caused this huge PR drop?
Does this sound like a temporary problem or could it be some kind of penalty?

My site is a genuine content site and I am not trying any funny stuff - just following basic optimization guidelines.

Thanks.

WebFusion




msg:39742
 2:20 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does this sound like a temporary problem or could it be some kind of penalty?

Have your serps positions dropped dramatically? If not, then I wouldn't worry much about it.

girish




msg:39743
 2:42 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seems this morning (Tuesday Jan 4) several sites which had gotten a large PR distribution (several hundred pages per site) a few days ago, are now "whited" out again. The home pages retained the PR as before. Just the new pages which showed PR yesterday are now zero'd out

jez_kewler




msg:39744
 3:03 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Page Rank is still fluxing and I have noticed that automated queries against one single toolbar-PR

server return worse results than “distributed” PR queries… this is great from a Google viewpoint to cause confusion…

The facts that

a) a lot of Google Tools use the PR checksum algorithms to query only toolbarqueries.google.com which translates to one single server

b) the only public tool that queries more servers I know is the Future PR tool by SEOCHAT [#*$!.com...] cannot handle multi page queries

c) massive queries (1 request / second or faster) to a single PR server return zillions of low PR values

causes

a) you (and me) to believe that PR has dropped when it hasn’t really (double check in your Toolbar AND against other servers!)

b) causes a REALLY weird “flux” effect on large PR queries

c) tool builders needing to understand the new traps that Google invented (like I had one AHA this afternoon) AND to implement them into their tools…

and THEN the new PR values can be checked...

But –this PR instability will cause confusion just as the “broken backlink tool” already did for link customers and traders.

MANY or MOST of the online PR SEO tools are thereby rendered USELESS as of today… a nice strategic move by Google, eh?

Don’t you agree?

Even the SEOCHAT tools like [#*$!.com...] and other professional SEO tools return these

strange results as they all query one single PR server…

webhound




msg:39745
 3:27 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

as always, who cares about PR these days? lets see some changes in the serps and we'll have something to talk about.

jez_kewler




msg:39746
 3:31 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

link traders care

Symbios




msg:39747
 3:52 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Checking page rank was one of the sanity checks I used to avoid bad neighbourhoods, with all the whacky stuff going on maybe that becomes more of a risk now.

roadhazard




msg:39748
 11:32 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, after all my hard work to get themed recip links, I got the reward of a PR drop from PR3 down to PR1. So I have decided just to watch the Alexa toolbar. My traffic rating keeps moving up every week. I have no Google traffic, only Yahoo and MSN and some Altavista, etc. 800 page quality site. I obviously do not understand linking for PR purposes. So since I am so stupid, I have no choice but to ignore the Google toolbar. I have built a few sites over the last years and NEVER had a prob with PR. I do not know WHAT they did but the PR algo has changed. I see some others with the same problem and dropping from PR6 to PR1 has got to be a REAL BUMMER. Yes, potential link partners STAY AWAY FROM LOW PR SITES. So this kicks a lot of us down. I will keep monitoring webmasterworld to see if HOPEFULLY someone can figure out what Google wants now for PR upgrades. I wish I could ignore Google, but G has most of the traffic. I know, pay to be on page one. Great for those who can do it. Not everyone can afford it.

rookiecrd1




msg:39749
 2:02 am on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Using the future pagerank tool at seo chat, I get the following. Does this mean my site will now be a PR in the futre or will it remain a 5?

toolbarqueries.google.com 5

64.233.161.99 5

64.233.161.104 5

66.102.7.99 6

66.102.7.104 6

216.239.59.99 6

216.239.59.104 6

216.239.37.104 5

216.239.39.99 6

216.239.39.104 6

66.102.11.99 6

66.102.11.104 6

216.239.57.99 6

216.239.57.104 6

66.102.9.99 6

66.102.9.104 6

216.239.53.99 6

216.239.53.104 6

srinivas




msg:39750
 2:31 am on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a new pr for my sites and even for Yahoo i am seeing the change Yahoo got pr10 and now it is back to pr9 is it an update or the pr just got back to the olde one before this update

jez_kewler




msg:39751
 8:25 am on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

@Rookiecrd:

66.102.11.99 is stable for many sites,
so congrats - you got a PR6 now for 3 months ...

What did you change?

jcsuper




msg:39752
 1:11 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think it is strange update. Our sites are
PR 6-> PR 6
PR 6-> PR 5
PR 5-> PR 6
PR 5- PR 5
All that I can say that this site PR 5-> PR 6 was aproximatively abandoned, very few links added. I don't know the reason of raising PR.
As we analyse our backward partners- 14 of them dropped from PR 6 to PR 0. Though #*$! still shows some PR 0, some PR 6. I don't know the reason of it too.
We noticed such "banned sites" after every backward links update, so "no" to the theory of quarterly Pr update?

Bonusbana




msg:39753
 1:28 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know, pay to be on page one. Great for those who can do it. Not everyone can afford it.

The web is not for free anymore, if you want to increase your income and visitors, you have to meet the competition. Sorry, but thats how I see it.

suggy




msg:39754
 1:46 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's still "free" for me and I would suggest a high percentage of WebmasterWorld members. Of course, you can also buy directly through Adwords, if you prefer.

I think it comes down to a (not so simple) estimation: over the lifetime of a customer is it cheaper to recruit through Adwords or the SERPS.

You see SERPS cost, just in a different way. Getting to the top costs manpower - even if you don't buy links - and, in my experience, nobody works for free.

The King is Dead? Actually, he never lived!

Bonusbana




msg:39755
 1:50 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

You see SERPS cost, just in a different way. Getting to the top costs manpower - even if you don't buy links - and, in my experience, nobody works for free.

True.

But many webmasterworld members actually makes a dime or two on their sites, and it would be very ignorant to go and buy champagne for the prize money. Setting aside a portion for marketing budget is essential in all business plans.

Thats my point - stop complaining about google not giving you free serp hits - do something about it.

kpaul




msg:39756
 4:03 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

it may be old news, but i noticed new backlinks today...

-kpaul

Blackguy




msg:39757
 5:08 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

My main page remained at PR 4 eventhough the backlinks increased since the last PR update from 23 to 159 including 30 external backlinks. My internal pages got an increase in PR since most of them had PR 0.

coconubuck




msg:39758
 7:56 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

So this is pretty much just a PR update? Nothing more for the most part?

Bones




msg:39759
 9:30 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

"So this is pretty much just a PR update? Nothing more for the most part?"

Let me guess. Did the title of the thread give it away? :)

Spogum




msg:39760
 10:07 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Someone said, "To heck with PR change, show me some SERPS changes." I've got at least two sites that have had PR5 even PR6 for years both drop to zero -- and the site:www.domain.com command shows NO site even indexed. (Yes, the site is still findable by a direct link or typing the domain name in the locator bar.)

Needless to say, though, the SERPS have gone from top ten rankings to nowhere-to-be-found. Yes, I've read Caveman's post on When Google Drops You. But that's a lot of research. Anyone else enjoying this nightmare?

Blackguy




msg:39761
 6:03 am on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

does anybody know when was the cutoff date? i mean i have a page which was indexed for the first time on dec 5 and got a PR so i think the PR calculation started after that date. any guess?

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