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site:www.example.com Brings Up Other Domains
Rresults only show other sites linking to me.
trimmer80




msg:135420
 10:44 pm on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a domain that for some reason is not listing in google. The domain is a 6 months old and should be listed by now.

If I do a search for site:www.example.com it brings up listings for another site that links to me. In my experience site: only brings up pages from that domain.

My question is :
1. Has anyone else seen this occur before.

2. Could the site that is appearing in the site: search somehow affect my ability to get the site listed?

[edited by: ciml at 4:53 am (utc) on Dec. 18, 2004]
[edit reason] Examplified [/edit]

 

canuck




msg:135421
 8:02 am on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have noticed that Google can do this if a site links to yours with a 302 redirect ("found"), or even parked domains can do this also.

I'd take a look at your competitors' sites to see exactly how they are linking to you.

zeus




msg:135422
 1:31 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is a problem in Google algo, they cant see the difference between a real site or a site that is redirecting to another, just wait until next update then you will see a lot of that, its a good way for the competion to decrease your rankings and its legal, its pure Horror, so hope your competition is nice.

trimmer80




msg:135423
 3:10 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

cheers, zeus, your absolutely right.
after further investigate the site linking to me is using the meta refresh redirect method discussed in many other threads.

It appears that they are using an off the shelf commerical linking system. I am in contact with the site owner to have the links to me removed. I am also getting in touch with the makers of the product to let them know the damage their script is causing.

This is a major flaw on googles behalf and i am going to write to them and let them know. I doubt they will just listen to me so anybody else that could contact them and complain about this flaw would be great.

I am sure that they are already aware of the problem and are trying to find a solution but more pressure from us will hopefully speed the solution along.

walkman




msg:135424
 5:05 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

flaw? oh, no. if it was a flaw google would've fixed it by now. They certainly know between this, other threads and boards.

Why don't you buy some adwords to make up for it?

mark1615




msg:135425
 5:06 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

We have had the same issue guys. A site linking to us shows up in the site:www.mydomain.com results. They have a page that returns there as: www.theirdomain.com/links/go.php This issue has been discussed in other forums, not sure if it has been here on WW. It is a big problem with the Google algo because I think it trips the dupe filter. Our site dropped out of sight at the same time this page with the go.php showed up. Coincidence? I don't think so - others have had similar experiences. We send the offending site a Cease and Desist. We don't know for sure if the intent was malicious - it surely may have been as this is in a big money area - but the effect surely was.

I would be interested in hearing from others, especially as regards solutions.

trimmer80




msg:135426
 9:46 pm on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Does the googlebot carry a referrer?
I could write a script so that if the site a visitor came for is the offending site then redirect them to another place.

This will only work if the googlebot carries the referrer, which i doubt.

Other than this i am all out of solutions.

walkman




msg:135427
 12:31 am on Dec 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

trimmer,
see this: [webmasterworld.com...]

doesn't look like GoogleBot carries any referer info. How about checking the URL string and ban it that way? Is that possible?

trimmer80




msg:135428
 1:45 am on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the link. I dont think the url string would help. I need to be able to tell who send the bot to that page.
I am thinking i might need to drop the domain.

A question for anyone that has had this problem before.

The link exists in the following structure.
htt*://www.example.com/link.php?url=http://www.destination-example-domain.com

The owner of the site has removed the link... but if you type the link into google it still exists.

Do anybody have an idea how long can i expect before my domain will get indexed?

Any feedback will be great.

walkman




msg:135429
 2:27 am on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

"The owner of the site has removed the link... but if you type the link into google it still exists."

ask him nicely to remove it via here:
[services.google.com...] otherwise that URL (probably with your cache) might me stuck on the supplemental basket for months if not years.

zeus




msg:135430
 2:40 am on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm all this has been talked about here on WW, but I understand this IS A HUGE problem, because so many different sites has been hit. I got hit the 3 nov. and still no improvement, has been on Google for 2 years, never had any troubles and the site is pure HTML static.

I have tried robots.txt - no results
Contactet host and sites - got into HUGE discussion with different websites, that they are not doing anything wrong and many of them are right, they are just link with a special script wich pop up a redirecting and then Google get in trouble.

I will be hornest with you all - you can NOT do anything about this - you have to wait for Google to wake up or begining to care, I think it will first be fixed by actident, I dont think they go after the problem.

So wait for the nest Google update and hope for the best, one thing is for sure, we WILL see much more of this as soon the real spammers see this option.

This bug is also the reason why some build more sites, for safty.

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