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Google Thinks My Site is From the UK
An Australian site, hosted in the US.
celenoid




msg:64311
 10:54 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a .com site with an Australian flavour that is hosted on a US server (moved previously between US and AU servers), with 2 DMOZ listings (one in the AU subcategory), and I've just seen a flood of UK-only searches bring visitors to my site.

Incidentally I also spotted a Singapore-only search bring up our url in the last few days.

Is google confused? Or are these country specific searches somewhat fuzzy?

 

celenoid




msg:64312
 12:59 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

anyone?

irishaff




msg:64313
 1:56 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,

You probably have it covered but have you checked the ip of the host against a who is to see if its physically located where they say it is. Up untill now i would have said they were fairly consistant.

celenoid




msg:64314
 2:23 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Double checked the whois / IP location --
Michigan is still in the United States, right? ;)

[edited by: celenoid at 2:51 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2004]

celenoid




msg:64315
 2:28 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Pages from the site are currently showing up for simultaneous search phrases under "pages from Singapore", as well as "pages from the UK".

The site is only a few 100 pages large. I do have *one* mention of "london", and one or two mentions of the word "singapore" within the site. Many mentions of Australia, yet no mention in Google's AU index.

Yahoo thinks I'm in Australia.

I don't know where I am.

BigDave




msg:64316
 4:41 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

It may be that you just don't rank as well against the additional competitors in the US and AU searches. Or the algos might be somewhat different, and you are able to beat them out in other countries.

Or they may just be confused.

celenoid




msg:64317
 5:14 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the suggestion. Though I am #1 for said keyphrase for non-regionally-specific searches (ie. on google.com). I am also #1 for said keyphrase in SG and UK (though for inexplicably different pages within the site).

using site:mydomain in .com, .sg and .co.uk brings up different numbers of results.

Confused, I think.

PanUK




msg:64318
 6:21 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Could it be all UK searchers are now being dumped(sorry redirected) onto the UK Google that had previously used the .com Google.

Would this explain your sudden rise in UK hits.

jaffstar




msg:64319
 8:20 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

celenoid, sticky me, I will send you to a site that will show geographically where your site is hosted based on IP , not by whois.

Its suppossed to be similar to how google locates you.

glengara




msg:64320
 9:16 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you using British rather than American spelling?

Chris_D




msg:64321
 11:11 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

celenoid, here are some areas to double check:

1. where are the NAMESERVERS for your domain hosted? Not the webserver - the nameservers. That might be the issue.

2. How old is the DMOZ AU regional listing? Is the AU regional DMOZ listing reflected as yet in the Google directory?

Let us know.

Best

Chris_D
Sydney

larryhatch




msg:64322
 11:56 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

A related site in Belgium once linked to my site, but identified me as an Englishman.

I wrote in that I'm from California, so the Belgians turned me into a Canadian.

I still have a nice link there. - Larry

celenoid




msg:64323
 10:45 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thank you for all the helpful replies!

glengara, the site has been written in Australian/British spelling. As a rule of thumb I do my best to "neutralise" (or neutralify ;)) the language that I use online by phrasing a particular way (though some British spelling may have slipped through).

Chris_D, The AU dmoz listing is at least a few years old, and is reflected in the google directory. DMOZ on the google toolbar for the site lists another entry it has in the US/world category. The nameserver is located in Dalas, Texas.

I don't believe my site is incredibly complicated or special; I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experiences with Google geo targeting.

Chris_D




msg:64324
 1:32 pm on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi celenoid,

I can show you a .com domain, with an Australian DMOZ listing, and a global DMOZ listing, with an Australian nameserver - and Google correctly lists it as an Australian site.

I can't prove it to you - but I think a big part of the answer is in the nameserver location.... are you sure BOTH nameservers are in the US? Many hosting companies use nameservers in different parts of the world, on different trunks, in case there is an issue with a nameserver.

celenoid




msg:64325
 10:16 pm on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Chris_D, I checked the location of both the IP's, and they are both in the US. The site is hosted in Michigan, and the nameserver sits in Dallas.

Why Google thinks one of my pages is Singaporean while others are from the UK is beyond me.

site:www.mysite.com (US): 305 results
site:www.mysite.com (SG): 1 result
site:www.mysite.com (UK): 96 results
site:www.mysite.com (AU): 0 results

This is really not a big problem for us as we have a global target and rank well in most cases, but I thought it was intriguing and may offer some insight for others who are targetting various countries...

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