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Upate in progress?
Is there an update currently in progress
petehall




msg:109004
 2:17 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am seeing updated results on 216.239.39.104.

These were also visible for a short time yesterday on Google UK.

Is there an update in progress?

Does anyone else see any change?

 

jo1ene




msg:109094
 6:04 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yikes. From 3 to 11. Not good. The only differnce I can figure is that I haven't updated in a couple of months. PR is the same. I got a couple of new links to my articles. Yippee! A fat lot of good it's done me! Yes, I know...

I've been numbers 3 to 5 or so for a couple of years. Gotta get to work!

petehall




msg:109095
 8:37 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Looks like a lot of new sites have been added / are now ranking.

It appears that "competition" has sprung up from no-where, but not much from the UK (we are only interested in the UK market).

We've not budged an inch though, which is good. I guess.

mcavill




msg:109096
 9:18 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

has anyone got it narrowed down to a datacenter IP? - I've tried a few (but not all!) [webmasterworld.com] and they look about the same for the SERP's I tend to watch...

petehall




msg:109097
 9:34 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, try: google.co.uk or 66.102.11.99

petehall




msg:109098
 9:40 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google UK is back to normal for me now :-/

[edited by: petehall at 10:30 pm (utc) on Nov. 30, 2004]

cleanup




msg:109099
 10:27 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

That IP and Google.com (from Spain) are now giving me what I saw on Sunday evening. This seems to be upto date now together with the missing files I reported above.

The algo does continue to be, a little different.

Critter




msg:109100
 8:58 pm on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Something's up...seeing a substantial increase in traffic this afternoon.

steveb




msg:109101
 9:05 pm on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

The (for me anyway) expected rollback of the third anchor text heavy algo of the fall started a couple hours ago. Much better batch coming up now. If you have a zillion forum links, you likely won't be as happy as you were yesterday.

(just on some datacenters so far like 216.239.53.99 and 216.239.39.99)

steveb




msg:109102
 12:59 am on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

And those revert, but still on 216.239.37.104

caveman




msg:109103
 1:39 am on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Everytime I see it it's only fleeting, and reverts. Have not found one DC yet that retains it. Very irritating. ;-)

Stefan




msg:109104
 4:06 am on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Something's afoot.

I noticed our Google traffic increase by about 30% a few days ago, and stay there. Got looking around at our more popular kw's and saw that we'd moved up on those that weren't already #1, displacing sites like abo_t.com, (who have gone from first to fifth). This is on kw's that have been very stable day to day for months.

petehall




msg:109105
 1:15 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

And those revert, but still on 216.239.37.104

These results are much better for us too - I wish they would stick.

Since I have posted this I regularly see 3 different sets of results. I hope they are not on a constant rotation of algorithms :-/

europeforvisitors




msg:109106
 3:30 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

My Google referrals have been climbing over the past month or so, at a time of year when I'd normally expect traffic for my topic to be down. Interestingly, I've slipped from #1 for several of my major keyphrases to #4 or #5. But I'm doing better in the index for many other keyphrases--which just goes to show that editorial diversity within a topic is good insurance.

caveman




msg:109107
 6:40 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

>I hope they are not on a constant rotation of algorithms

The one that represents the greatest change seems to just keep randomly rotating thru the DC's.

steveb




msg:109108
 6:49 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

"The one that represents the greatest change seems to just keep randomly rotating thru the DC's."

Yes, all the dc's I mentioned above don't have the new stuff any more than the others. It's moving around, but stays on only a few datacenters at a time.

zeus




msg:109109
 8:32 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

have you seen that this text is under the search box on some DB.

"Target your message with Google's keyword advertising"

Hmm this new text on updated Google.com and a lot of hijacked sites which it out of the rankings, does look a little wiered.

godspeed




msg:109110
 8:56 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

what tool are you guys using to look at the results for the different data centers?

zeus




msg:109111
 9:06 pm on Dec 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

godspeed - right now Im looking at 216.239.37.104 and fi you mean a tool, then type google dance tool on Google.com

caveman




msg:109112
 6:39 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

The set of SERP's that I noted as representing the greatest change is now, in various forms, live everywhere I look.

mark1615




msg:109113
 6:47 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

In the areas we watch we're not seeing anything of note - just daily flux.

truth_speak




msg:109114
 12:15 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

stefan said:

"I noticed our Google traffic increase by about 30% a few days ago, and stay there. Got looking around at our more popular kw's and saw that we'd moved up on those that weren't already #1, displacing sites like abo_t.com, (who have gone from first to fifth). This is on kw's that have been very stable day to day for months."

my site's also gotten a boost in google traffic of about 25%.

my site has moved up in various stable keyword SERPs.

i don't have many good inbound links, aside from two from the open directory. maybe the new algo boosts ODP, and depresses value of certain other links...

irishaff




msg:109115
 12:41 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

hi,

There has just been a massive shift in my area. Directory type sites are taking much more of the top slots. Im spread pretty well across a few domains and am thankful i opted for this policy.

Seo1




msg:109116
 4:36 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone

As caveman has said Google has indeed started up a more continual updating and they still have the monthly indexing. So SERPs will not stay the same from here on out.

No doing a search and the results never changing.

For truth speaks.
You wrote
" don't have many good inbound links, aside from two from the open directory. maybe the new algo boosts ODP, and depresses value of certain other links"

From what I see Google does depress values of links. Basically I think the only links they assign Page Rank to your site with are the anchors with your keywords back to your site.

This is probably due to the abuse of links, and also a way for Google to quickly determine results rankings by the number of anchor text links to a site that matches the users search query.

Also as I have stated links are votes according to Google and using that word as opposed to links, votes are not counted more than once. Therefore votes from a prior election do not count in the current election.

In order for Google to provide relevant results the content needs to be fresh therefore I think that links also need to be fresh. As links age over time I would imagine that Google devalues the links worth.

To condense this I believe the more votes with keyword term searched for going to your site the higher in the serps you will appear.

I am not saying all the other areas of optimization would not be counted, but more if all things are equal then the last thing counted is # of links with the keyword term searched for, and this value would determine where in the results a site would appear.

My thoughts on fresh content fresh links stems from a press release I wrote for a client Nov 10 and by Nov 20 was front page on google for terms diamond brokers and americas diamonds, and driving nice traffic even though the links take you to the press release site it drives click throughs to the site quite well.

I was a little in shock to see that happen so quick to say the least.

My 1.5 cents adjusted for inflation.

Clint

promis




msg:109117
 5:01 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google must be broken. Otherwise explain this: For a popular two word search term the no. 1 result is titled "Site Pending". The content of the page cached by Google reads only: "www.domain.com is pending on this server. Please allow up to two minutes for www.domain.com to become fully active". It is evident therefore that Google has taken in this case no account of the actual page content. This sitw was ranking no.1 for the particular search term when the page was active and had relevant content and kept its position even when the page was not active at the time of crawling and read only the above message. Are incoming links the only factor counted by Google?

Powdork




msg:109118
 5:08 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

The popular two word search term wouldn't be 'site pending', would it?;)

1milehgh80210




msg:109119
 6:08 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

they still seem to have trouble w/-discount broker-
seems like years....

rfgdxm1




msg:109120
 6:18 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Google must be broken. Otherwise explain this: For a popular two word search term the no. 1 result is titled "Site Pending". The content of the page cached by Google reads only: "www.domain.com is pending on this server. Please allow up to two minutes for www.domain.com to become fully active". It is evident therefore that Google has taken in this case no account of the actual page content. This sitw was ranking no.1 for the particular search term when the page was active and had relevant content and kept its position even when the page was not active at the time of crawling and read only the above message. Are incoming links the only factor counted by Google?

How long has this page been up with "Site Pending"? Google has never updated in real time. In times before, if the content changed to "Site Pending", the page could stay at #1 for a month or so until the next Google Dance. Dunno how long it would be today. However, a page is NOT going to drop from Google if it changes to "Site Pending" for a while these days on Google.

Powdork




msg:109121
 7:15 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

they still seem to have trouble w/-discount broker-

#1 404 url only listing
#2 url only listing and the reason I unclick content match on my adwords account.
Yet another job well done Google.

dvduval




msg:109122
 8:16 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem with a brand name in my industry.

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